Tiger 800 Problematic

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  1. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

    May 10, 2019
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    The bikes been fine all winter , only gone on shortish rides , when
    Think I will invest in a new one , believe I've still got the original one . 60, 000 + miles !
     
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  2. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Current on is a YUASA YTX16- BS . I get one for £ 50 00 .
     
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  3. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    A poor battery can draw most of the charging systems output, and not enough voltage is there to run the electronics , ECU won't run at proper speed/efficiency if voltage is down, also the fuel pump and injection might not work to it's best ! My sprint slowly became a little more reluctant to start , and top performance and responsiveness went down. Didn't fully appreciate how much until I did a battery replacement .
     
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  4. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Thanks man , I think that will be the next step . New Battery . Currently shows 12 . 63 V when not been used for a da.y or two ..
     
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  5. joe mc donald

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    Chris Ryder
    Also if only short journeys the battery doesn't do to well with that either.
    Ride Safe
    Joe.
     
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  6. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Hi Joe , I've had the battery tested this morning , is charging O K and holding its charge ! I was advised that it may be the solenoid, or the starter motor !!
     
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  7. freck

    freck Elite Member

    May 4, 2017
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    That’s funny, I thought I’d said that a few days ago :p
     
  8. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

    May 10, 2019
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    You did indeed . I'm gonna whip the starter out soon . Found the solenoid , it's right under the battery . Earth lead is secure too ...did 40 miles today without a hitch ?
     
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  9. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Earth lead being secure is one thing .......... but you need to be doing a continuity (ohms) test at various points whilst turning the steering and waggling wires.
     
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  10. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

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    #30 Chris Ryder, May 17, 2019
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
    Your getting far too techy for me now !
     
  11. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Hes right too.
     
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  12. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

    Nov 14, 2018
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    Right Chris a quick (Not comprehensive) learning session to point you in the right direction;

    Buy a basic multimeter, very cheap, put the setting on ohms. Place one probe, say black one (to avoid confusion) directly onto battery negative It helps if the probes have removable crocodile clips so you can connect that and it will look after itself.
    Probe the other earth points, starter motor bolts etc. with the other probe. Meter should read as near to zero as possible.
    The continuity "buzzer" setting will give you a quick idea but an ohms value is more indicative.
     
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  13. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

    May 10, 2019
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    The saga continues . I dont think the starter motor is a serviceable unit . So difficult to get to . Got to remove throttle body assembly , something I dont realy want to tackle . So dont know what to do next . ?
     
  14. freck

    freck Elite Member

    May 4, 2017
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    Have a look at the starter solenoid if you can get to it. It’s more likely to be that than the starter.
    Make sure the electrical connections are tight and not corroded on both.
     
  15. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Now the new battery has fixed the slow turn over. It could be back to the Ignition coil????
     
  16. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Well , looks its fooked . Bike wont start at all . 12 . 65 v in battery . Sluggish turn over , do realy think the starter motor is at fault . Dont want to spend any more money on this bike so I may just scrap it and cut my losses !

    IMG_20190522_133400.jpg
     
  17. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    Scrap it! :eek: I’ll give you £100 for it :p
     
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  18. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Very worst case Spragclutch 100 pounds.
     
  19. freck

    freck Elite Member

    May 4, 2017
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    Plus the labour cost o_O
     
  20. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Just a manual, are you near any members?
     

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