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Tiger 800 Problematic

Discussion in 'Tiger / Explorer' started by Chris Ryder, May 14, 2019.

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  1. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Hi Tiger riders . I have 2 issues here , I am getting poor fuel economy recently , used to get 180 miles before reserve light lit . Before winter . Now it comes on at 150 . I changed the plugs and installed a K & N filter . Also cleaned the stepper motor linkage and bits . Still returns poor consumtion ...other issue , occasionally when I go to start bike , it's like the battery is flat , I put on a multi meter which shows around 12 . 80 V drops to 7 or 8 V when I press starter . If I leave the bike alone for 10 - 15 mins it will fire up ? Some days I dont have any problems. Never does it when cold . Thought it was the battery , so carted a booster box around . It makes no difference when that is attached .doing my head in it is ! Chris ..
     
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  2. freck

    freck Well-Known Member
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    May 4, 2017
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    Sounds like a bad connection at the starter or solenoid. Do you get a click when it does it or nothing?
    Can’t really help on the fuel consumption side I’m afraid, unless it’s a 955 Tiger then I might have a bit of an idea
     
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  3. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

    Feb 25, 2017
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    Have you got oil dripping from the air filter? They need surprisingly little oil or you will be running rich......
     
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  4. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Sorry it's a 2011 X C 800 on 6p , 000 miles .
     
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  5. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    No clicks , engine is turns over very slowly . It's a 2011 X C 800 .
     
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  6. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    No , popped the K & N straight in , as per instructions . Cleaned out snorkel and that little gauze filter . It was just fine before winter .
     
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  7. freck

    freck Well-Known Member
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    Mmm, does sound like a dodgy starter solenoid.
    You need to check the connections as well as your battery connections I’d say.
     
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  8. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit
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    Ignition coil, fails on a hot bike works on a cool one.
     
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  9. freck

    freck Well-Known Member
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    An ignition coil wouldn’t make it turn over slowly, surely?
     
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  10. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Thanks , will check solenoid, if I can find it.
     
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  11. freck

    freck Well-Known Member
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    Wow, just noticed you’re in Blackpool. If you struggle with it I’m just down the road in Warton should you need some help. :)
     
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  12. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Think I'm gonna have to go a main dealer , let them bleed me of some money !
     
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  13. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    Think I'm gonna have to go a main dealer , let them bleed me of some money !
    Thanks man , my pal has a laptop with the relevant soft ware do do a diagnostic check thingy. Says he will hook it up for me . So see how that pans out !
     
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  14. Eldon

    Eldon Senior Member

    Nov 14, 2018
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    Carry a crocodile jump lead as an additional earth next time it turns over slow. Attach it and see if theres a difference?

    Maybe the return (earth) path isn't good and somehow the heat is affecting it i.e. expansion.

    On the fuel consumption is there any brake drag?
    Carefully touch the discs after a run when you haven't used them much.
     
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  15. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    No brake drag push bike out of garage as allways freeweels down a little slope . Will try the earth thing . Problem with it being ntermittent
     
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  16. Eldon

    Eldon Senior Member

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    No brake drag cold but if there is a sticking pad or piston then braking force could be created when the disc expands.
    After a run i.e. when brake has a bit of heat in it, lift both wheels off the floor and spin up, checking for binding?
     
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  17. Chris Ryder

    Chris Ryder New Member

    May 10, 2019
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    O K , will try that . I did replace all brake pistons , pads and seals last year .
     
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  18. Eldon

    Eldon Senior Member

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    #18 Eldon, May 14, 2019
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    check the pads aren't tight in their slots?
    With you saying it was parked up but was ok before maybe it is just a little corrosion or build up of crud.
     
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  19. capt

    capt Senior Member

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    A bad or poor battery can make the bike run poorly and increase fuel consumption , i've experienced this on a 2000 sprint, try a new battery, borrow one maybe to test this theory.
    I know when I changed batteries the fuel economy and engine running improved significantly.
     
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  20. freck

    freck Well-Known Member
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    Never heard of this before but I’ve got a battery from my Daytona if you need one Chris, I’ve just bought a new Motobatt.
     
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