765 Running In

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  1. AGR64

    AGR64 New Member

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    what's the general consensus on following the running in guide lines do you follow them or just use your own judgement ie varied engine speeds gear selection nothing too stressed or prolonged.
    cheers
     
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  2. ChasChas

    ChasChas Marxist Scum

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    Depends what engine. I'm told newer engines need no running in. Can't do any harm tho. It makes basic sense to me to let assembled components bed in against eachother before giving them stress, no matter how close the assembly tolerances.
    If it's brand spankers I'd just treat it like a cold engine (surely there's nobody here who loads a motor before up to temp) for the first 500, light throttle loads. There may be those who say running in does sod all but it also does sod all harm too.
     
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  3. Rocker

    Rocker Elite Member

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    Do what you feel happy with but remember the fastest bike to buy is the ex demonstrator thrashed from day one ;):p
     
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  4. ChasChas

    ChasChas Marxist Scum

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    It's a popular opinion :D


    I've seen a couple of dyno studies that support the 'thrashed out the crate' treatment gives better dyno readings 2k down the line but until they're followed up with a 20 and 30k reliability test I'll take the chance of a 1% drop in peak bhp.

    It just goes against my mechanical sensibilities, I've no logic to back it :D

    So very likely bollocks. But it's what I do
     
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  5. AGR64

    AGR64 New Member

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    tank sticker says up to 5000 revs for first 300 miles then up to 6000 until 600 miles, 7000 until 800 miles, 8000 until 1000 miles and then you can let it rip but manual says during first 500 miles do not use full throttle avoid high engine speeds at all times, avoid riding at constant engine speed whether fast or slow for a long period of time, avoid aggressive starts, stops do not ride at speeds greater than 3/4 of max speed (so that's around 105mph) then from 500 to 1000 miles engine speed can be gradually increased to the rev limit for short periods, I'm inclined to just not thrash it for the first 1000 miles but build up gradually bit by bit and not maintaining constant revs speed for long periods, up and down the box at varied speeds all after letting the engine reach normal operating temp. :0)
     
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  6. AGR64

    AGR64 New Member

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    Well that’s another 100miles done.
    It was clean when I started and cleaned before putting away, until next ride when no doubt it will need a wash again.
    Although I’ve fitted a tail tidy there’s a lot of crap thrown up over the rear hugger and shock, which I didn’t expect.

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  7. J S Chappell

    J S Chappell Well-Known Member

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    Are you enjoying the bike? I've had 2 of them, a 2017 model and the 2020 both RS. They are in my opinion very naughty bikes, just begging to be thrashed and ridden on the edge, definitely a licence looser if you are not careful ! Just swapped to a BMW S1000XR for a little more comfort, I moved from the beautiful smooth roads of the Yorkshire Dales to Norfolk which suffers from corrugations on many of the B roads where I do most of my riding. The striple was just too painful for my damaged spine , soreluctantly i had to let her go.
     
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  8. AGR64

    AGR64 New Member

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    so far so good feels very light and nimble I’ve come from and sv1000 so same ish sort of power but not in the same league was considering a speed triple but couldn’t warrant the extra cost to the other half.
    Looking forward to getting past the first service so that I can open it up a bit.
     
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  9. Bad Billy

    Bad Billy Baddest Member

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    I ran mine in loosely based on what Triumph recommend, but the most important is not to labour the motor, I went on some very tight back lanes for early miles, this keeps you dancing on the gear lever & variable revs all the time, it also gives the brakes & suspension a work out. Once the oil was changed at first service I didn't worry too much, just never held high revs long.
    Ultimately I don't think running in is as important these days, are you likely to keep the bike until it's mileage goes beyond 30,000 or 40,000 miles?
     
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  10. Streetgirl675

    Streetgirl675 ...otherwise known as Streetgirl765

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    I still have the stock tail tidy and have seen quite a few people have commented on the same issue you have since changing it. I was thinking of changing, but don’t think I want all the muck on my back.o_O
     
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  11. Bad Billy

    Bad Billy Baddest Member

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    #11 Bad Billy, Oct 31, 2020
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    IMHO the Street is a far better bike the Speed, certainly the gearbox is leagues ahead, & the handling is light & precise, I also found both the Street 675R & the 765RS more rewarding to ride than the big 1000cc bikes I had been on. The feeling that I could ride the wheels off the smaller bike without getting the near death experience of riding the 1000cc superbikes like they are supposed to be ridden! :eek:

    Edit - A couple of threads I started when I had my 765RS which you may find helpful;

    https://www.thetriumphforum.com/threads/suspension-setup-a-simple-guide-to-help-you.18373/

    https://www.thetriumphforum.com/threads/765-rs-a-year-on-my-humble-view.14787/#post-200514
     
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  12. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    #12 Wessa, Oct 31, 2020
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    I'm a bit old school when it comes to running bikes in, generally following the manufacturer guidelines for the first 500 miles and the first oil change. Once this has been completed I then use a little common sense on working the bike a little harder..
     
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  13. bob1

    bob1 Noble Member

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    had a few new bikes over the years flat out from day one never had a problem:)
     
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  14. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Pretty much all been said.....

    The biggest crime in running in is lugging the motor. Aside from that just build the revs. Ridden that way, brakes and tyres naturally follow.
     
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  15. joe mc donald

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    Welcome to the family. You sure have a cool steed there. The inmates will ogle the great picture for ages now. Thanks for sharing. Running the engine in is the revs just keep them down for a while.
    Joe
     
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  16. AGR64

    AGR64 New Member

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    Thanks for the advice guys, like most have said labouring the engine is worst for it than bob 1’s method. I like Bad Billy”s route and have chosen a similar method and thanks for the heads up on your old posts I’ll take a look and your right I’ll probably never see 30 k or more on it
     
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  17. Cajunbruce

    Cajunbruce New Member

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    There numerous you tube videos showing engine builds at the factory where they run all engines. They let them warm up and run the snot out of them, Every one of them. From Corvette to Harley to, yes, Triumph. I have put over 150K on a GOldwing and 109K on a Harley....when new I just rode them. Key is clean oil. I have my first Triumph, Tiger 1200Xcx, so time will tell.
     
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  18. Octoberon

    Octoberon Crème de la Crème

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    Another old thread revived, I see. It’s happened a couple of times recently and made me realise that a few people, like @Streetgirl675, haven’t been seen in a while, which is a shame.
     
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  19. Octoberon

    Octoberon Crème de la Crème

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    I’m with @Wessa on this one. The manufacturers know a lot more about engineering that I do so I go with whatever they recommend.
     
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  20. PH1969

    PH1969 Well-Known Member

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    You've paid your money so you can take your choice.
    Personally I warm the bike up for 4 or 5 miles then pin it. This is what I do before and after the first running in service, never had an issue and probably done 15 new bikes like this.
     
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  21. Octoberon

    Octoberon Crème de la Crème

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    #20 Octoberon, Jan 4, 2022
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    I've heard conflicting views over the years about whether to let an engine warm up on idle or get straight on and ride it normally, i.e. don't rev the nuts off it before it's up to temperature. That's what the manufacturer recommends for my car, anyway. I don't know which philosophy is right, or even if it makes much difference. I suspect a lot of these opinions stem from a time when engines weren't as refined and robust as today's units.
     
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