Featured Suspension Setup - A Simple Guide To Help You

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  1. Bad Billy

    Bad Billy Baddest Member
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    I was looking to help @Ron Ashurst with his suspension set up yesterday, there is loads of info on the net about this, but I have found this guide simple to follow and effective so thought I'd share.

    I printed this off in 2001, the link to the page is long gone or I would have directed you to it, I have set up every bike I have owned since using it, as you can see from the scribblings on the page!

    Suspension set up isn't a dark art, follow the guide & it's easy to get the bike dialled in, hope this helps some of you.

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  2. Ron Ashurst

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    Thanks mate. Just printed that off actually. Hope to get it done this weekend.
     
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  3. mpllineman

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    Me Too!
     
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  4. DanielB

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    What a useful post. I will certainly give it a go!

    A couple of questions...

    Taking readings 'a' and 'c', can this be done using the centre stand - with the bike lent forward or rear to take the weight off the relevant wheel?

    Secondly, and this is a more general question from a sedate big bike rider... What difference am I likely to actually feel? Are these subtle and bespoke differences that only the most attuned rider would feel; or big obvious changes in ride and bike feel?

    I have a speed triple (955i) and could tell that the ride was more firm than an old 650 Honda.... But will it ever be wallowing and soft(er) is by its very nature will just be a firm ride? I made the ride as soft as the manual said I could....but my novice bum couldn't really notice a difference!

    Very happy to be educated!
     
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    Apologies,

    Just realized I can upload a file.

    Mods, please delete as appropriate.

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  7. Red Thunder

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    Many thanks for typing this up, I have saved PDF of it to my bike folder on my phone for later reference:)
     
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  8. mpllineman

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    Thanks indeed for the typing! I read your post the other day and this makes it a lot easier for me to check out the setup on my Scrambler, after some alterations. Thanks again!
     
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  9. Ron Ashurst

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    Awesome job mate. Thanks.

    But I think I need some new springs.
    I have it dialed all the way up and I am still barley in the Road settings.
    OK OK, YES. I am a fat fecker as well. But still. :confused:
     
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  10. littleade

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    some off a semi should do it Ron:kissing_heart:
     
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  11. Ron Ashurst

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    Can you give me one from that Panzer you ride around ;)
     
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  12. Bad Billy

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    Hi Daniel,

    Sorry I have only just come across your questions on this,

    1. You can take the readings on the centre stand as long as the relevant wheel is off the floor, I use an ABBA stand when I set up my race bike as there is not even a side stand.
    2. Getting the sag right for your weight will give you a better riding experience, make the bike handle better & in turn should make for a better ride, will you notice it? Difficult to say, but to give you my prospective, I race a bike that wasn't designed for racing (600 Bandit), when I first went on track I hated it, it was chewing the rear tyre up & my lap times were crap, I adjusted the suspension (couldn't get it to race settings, so settle for firm-ish road). When I went back on track it didn't feel like a different bike, nor did I feel like I was going much better, but I knocked a couple of seconds out of the lap time & the tyre wear settled down to what you would expect on track.
    3. The Speed Triple & the Honda 650 are a world apart in handling, if you feel your bike feels a little firm then best check the loaded sag, it could be a former owner has played with the suspension if the bike was not brand new.
    I had a Street Triple 765RS from new, I initially thought the suspension was too firm, I left it until the run in period was done then checked the loaded sag, it was actually way too soft for my weight, I was confusing the suspension bottoming on bumpy roads with feeling harsh & hard, once adjusted the bike was transformed.

    It does make me smile how people will spend fortunes on performance mods for their bike but never bother with setting up the suspension properly, in my view suspension and tyres are the best modification you can spend your money on.

    I hope you take the time to at least check the loaded sag, at least you'll know then was the true story is regarding the feeling of a harsh ride.

    Cheers
    Billy
     
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  13. Eldon

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    Yep got to agree BB, suspension and tyres in my opinion for any form of motor sport provide better gains than HP.
     
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