What Next From Labour?

Walking down the street a Member of Parliament is hit by a lorry and dies.
His soul arrives in Heaven and is met by St. Peter. He says, "

'Welcome to heaven. Before you settle in, it seems there's a problem. We seldom see anyone in such high office around here, so we're not sure what to do with you.'

'Just let me in,' says the politician.

'Well, I'd like to but I have instructions from above. You'll have to spend one day in Hell and one in Heaven, then you can choose where to spend eternity.'

'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in Heaven,' says the MP.

'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.' replies St Peter

With that, St. Peter escorts him to the lift and he went down, down, down to Hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and dressed in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar, and champagne.

Also present is the Devil, a very nice, friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They're having such a good time that before he realises, it's time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves as the lift rises...

The door opens in Heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him. 'Now it's time to show you around Heaven.'

So, 24 hours pass with the MP joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing harps and singing. They have a good time and, before he realises it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns. 'Well, you've spent a day in Hell and another in Heaven. Now choose your eternity.'

The MP reflects for a minute, then answers: 'Well, I would never have thought it before, I mean Heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in Hell.' So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down down to Hell.

When the doors open he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and refuse.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the rubbish and putting it in black bags as more garbage falls from above.

The Devil comes over and puts his arm around his shoulder.

'I don't understand,' stammers the MP, "yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? '

The Devil looks at him, smiles and says, Yesterday we were campaigning* ...

Today you voted.

 

Don't whether to laugh or cry at that!

Oldfart

 

Yay, Conservatives win and we leave Europe on a lousy deal, worse than Mr's May's

 

I totally agree with you Jez, but as a former miner who was on strike for a full year in 1984-85, and was falsely imprisoned in Durham high security jail twice within that year, only to be released without charge, due to lack of evidence, and we were only trying to stop pit closures, as the Tories wanted to import subsidised coal from Australia falsely claiming it was cheaper, can you imagine the carbon footprint those ships were giving out, Greta Thunberg would have a field day. sorry I got carried away but that's why I hate and wouldn't vote for the Tory bastards.

 

I did go out and vote, and I got soaked in the pissing rain, but I didn't vote for the leading parties, and I wouldn't even have bothered to go out if I hadn't ran out of booze, in the North East you could put a monkey up for Labour and people would still vote for it, (apart from Hartlepool, they hang monkeys)

 

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Nothing like holding a grudge is there? That’s 35 years ago David. Boris Johnson and probably most of the Cabinet were still at school then so you can hardly blame them for what happened then.
This is what I find ridiculous. Most of the electorate don’t even listen to what the parties are saying. They just go off their families and peers opinions which are indoctrinated into them from a young age because of such long held grudges.

 

Er, in 1964 to 1979 the number of working mines went from 545 to 219 - under Labour Governments. Then under Thatcher 219 to 65.

A fuller picture is at https://www.quora.com/Were-more-mines-closed-under-labour-than-under-Thatcher

Lots of pits were closed and caused lots of suffering, job losses etc.

In reality little Greta would be getting really angry and shouty whilst picketing outside a mine/coal fire power station these days so the closure of the mines would be inevitable anyway maybe?

Both parties missed a trick to replace the jobs with other well paying jobs rather than leave the effected areas in ruin. It needed retraining, investment (to get other industries in) etc. Seems like the miners were abandoned?

 

Bloody hell - Diane Abbott won her seat with 70% of the vote!

That constituency has really low expectations of what it takes to be an MP!

 

What next from Labour? Obscurity.

 

That takes a very strange type of thickness to vote Abacus in again.

 

The mines that closed under Labour were no longer making a profit as the reserves of coal were running out, plus the workforce were transferred to nearby pits, the one's closed by the Tories were profitable and had years of reserves left, for example, Wearmouth colliery in Sunderland had completed a survey using an offshore drilling rig which put the reserves of coal at over a 100 million tons, and that gave the pit another 50 years work, but they still closed it because new managers were brought in to run them so badly that they started to lose money a ploy we all saw many times, if one of the old school pit managers tried to keep it from closing he would be given a large redundancy deal and replaced by one of the new managers who would soon close the pit, I transferred to other pits 4 times under Thatcher, the biggest blow was closing a large number of pits in 1993 that put over 30000 miner out of work with the knock on effect of whole communities being destroyed which haven't recovered since, so all the former mining Villages have good reason to hate the Tories.

 

I voted Brexit, I hate Corbyn.

 

Tories up 1%
Labour down 8%
SNP up .8%

SNP 4x Lib Dem seats with 1/3rd of their vote.

Disproportionate effects all round. Good innit? Innit?

 

I wonder (no evidence to back this up) if part of the decision for winding down the pits was ‘energy security’? By keeping coal in the ground and using cheaper imports that energy asset would be there in future years.

Terrible that little effort wasn’t apparently made to find new investment for the areas effected.

 

I am confident it is entirely beyond the capacity of Labour strategists but the Uber Lefty wimmin candidates being touted to replace Jezza will not greatly trouble the Tories.
If I wanted a leader who could rally my core vote and tear chunks of support off the Conservatives.......? Dan Jarvis. Paratroop Major with a quasi Tory backstory. That would rattle windows come the next election.

 

He’s a dripping wet Tory.

 

I am not a political person but I feel the election became the second referendum on Europe, the Lib Dems set out their stall to stop Brexit, Labour picked some half arsed option including another referendum, everything else (even Corbyn's lack of popularity) became almost a side issue.

The electorate voted out of Europe, MP's in the main have frustrated any attempt to make it happen, I think this vote will re-focus their attention.

I actually voted remain initially, however I believe that a democratic vote should be honoured whether I believed in the result or not, if not, then what is the point of democracy?

The Lib Dems & Labour got what they deserved in my view, I don't have confidence politicians to honour their promises, but at least we know the stalemate over Brexit is now at an end.
I hope that we can now move forward as a Nation, the real worry for me now is the Union as the SNP will doubtless keep pushing for another referendum on independence.

 

I've really enjoyed reading the posts in here of late. So many have been informative, thought provoking and delivered in a passive, eloquent and largely balanced way.

Cheers guys

Oldfart

 

The SNP vote went up only marginally. In March the Salmond trial starts and who knew what, when and deleted what will start. I predict a s**t show.

 

I saw on another bike site a comment about the election which made be laugh, I adapted it for this forum;

The election choice was like choosing between a twin that won't start & a triple without a drive sprocket!