Featured Uncle Sam’s Scorecard

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  1. Sprinter

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  2. Callumity

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    4yr supply!
     
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  3. learningtofly

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    Arguably of more value than a Humpty Dumpty quote, mind.
     
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  4. Callumity

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    Humpty Dumpty was ably illustrating how subjective some people can be without even recognising it.
     
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    859CE7AD-1BB0-4C2A-815E-D79A0F95B4AF.gif
     
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  6. DCS222

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    I do love those films... :D
     
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  7. figwold

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    Interesting indeed.

    But can you imagine the uproar if, after telling citizens that, because of a pandemic, they should vote by post if at all possible, the courts were to hold that actually the tens of millions of postal votes were unconstitutional (despite having been used in many elections for years) and the respective voters thereby disenfranchised.

    So I can’t see that going anywhere.

    That is slightly different to challenging SOME decisions on whether (for example) votes arriving after polling day should be counted, which may have some impact but (I suspect, admittedly) may well be rather irrelevant other than providing clarity.

    As an aside it doesn’t say much for the leadership in Texas if they have agreed to bring such a case to challenge the actions of other states.
     
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  8. learningtofly

    learningtofly He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
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    The only relevance of Humpty Dumpty to the allegations of election fraud is that both are works of fiction.
     
  9. figwold

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    From the Guardian website:

    The state of Texas, aiming to help Donald Trump upend the results of the US election, decisively won by Joe Biden, said on Tuesday it has filed a lawsuit against the states of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin at the US supreme court, calling changes they made to election procedures amid the coronavirus pandemic unlawful.

    The extraordinary and probably long-shot lawsuit, announced by the Republican attorney general of Texas, Ken Paxton, was filed directly with the supreme court, as is permitted for certain litigation between states.

    The supreme court has a 6-3 conservative majority, including three justices appointed by Trump.

    The lawsuit represents the latest legal effort intended to reverse the Republican president’s loss to Democratic candidate Biden in the 3 November election, which had appeared to be running out of steam after dozens of losses by the Trump campaign in its court challenges over the past month.

    Republican-governed Texas in the lawsuit accused election officials in the four states of failing to protect mail-in voting from fraud, thus diminishing “the weight of votes cast in states that lawfully abide by the election structure set forth in the constitution”.

    State election officials have said they have found no evidence of such fraud that would change the results, and local and national officials have declared it the most secure election in US history.

    There was an increase in voting by mail in the election due to the pandemic, as many Americans stayed away from polling places to avoid the spread of Covid-19.

    Texas is asking the supreme court to block the electoral college votes in the four states – a total of 62 votes – from being counted.

    Biden has amassed 306 electoral votes – exceeding the necessary 270 – compared with 232 for Trump in the state-by-state electoral college that determines the election’s outcome, while also winning the national popular vote by more than 7m votes.

    Texas also is asking the supreme court to delay the 14 December deadline for electoral college votes to be cast.

    Paul Smith, a professor at Georgetown University’s law school, said Texas did not have a legitimate basis to bring the suit.

    “There is no possible way that the state of Texas has standing to complain about how other states counted the votes and how they are about to cast their electoral votes,” Smith said.

    Trump’s campaign and his allies have pursued unsuccessful lawsuits in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and other states, making unfounded claims of widespread election fraud. Judges appointed under Democratic and Republican administrations, including Trump’s, have ruled against the president’s campaign, often in excoriating tones.

    Trump lost those four states after winning them in 2016.

    The supreme court is not obligated to hear the case and has said in previous decisions that its “original jurisdiction” that allows litigation between states to be filed directly with the nine justices should be invoked sparingly.
     
  10. Callumity

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    #390 Callumity, Dec 8, 2020
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    Now THAT is verbose (& somewhat presumptuous in parts).

    Note to SOCUS. Figwold says bad flu trumps (sic) 14th Amendment.

    Popcorn!

    Stop Press: SOCUS have just docketed the Texas case so it WILL be heard. So much for Prof Smith’s prophecy. It is also open to other States to join in the action.
     
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    Note to Socus. Callumity can’t read.
     
  12. figwold

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    Interesting also that Texas is asking the supreme court to block the electoral college votes in the four states – a total of 62 votes – from being counted, i.e. completely disenfranchising all voters in these states.

    How to really make themselves popular!
     
  13. Callumity

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    Well Louisiana just joined Texas......
     
  14. figwold

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    If they sell the show on HBO the proceeds could pay for the vaccine programme!
     
  15. learningtofly

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    You lot using the acronym “SOCUS” - do you actually mean SCOTUS? If not, what are you referring to?
     
  16. Russell Stroup

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    Watched this and was laughing. I then had to explain my laughter to my girlfriend. To which she replied “Why do they care about our election, and why aren’t they talking about bikes?” :joy::joy::joy:
     
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  17. Rich Bryce

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    Because we all love a soap opera ;)
     
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  18. Russell Stroup

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    You got one...the only thing missing is someone coming back from the dead.
     
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  19. Rich Bryce

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    Desperate times, desperate measures and all that ... just when you thought Trumps' acolytes couldn't go any lower they prove you wrong yet again.
     
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