Two Seconds To Return To Idle

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  1. Tom Swift

    Tom Swift Active Member

    Sep 24, 2021
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    I think fuel gets cut only while in gear with the clutch out. In neutral or with clutch in, it should be in closed-loop mode so blipping the throttle would be running a straight stoichiometric mixture only.
     
  2. nickjaxe

    nickjaxe Member

    Sep 2, 2020
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    Good point yes.
     
  3. Baza

    Baza Noble Member

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    Very esoteric.
     
  4. Tom Swift

    Tom Swift Active Member

    Sep 24, 2021
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    Closed-loop mode is when only the O2 sensor determines correct AFR for most complete burn under low load conditions. It kicks in at idle, slow speeds, cruise and anytime the clutch is pulled in or transmission is in neutral.

    Open-loop mode is when the all the other sensors along with the ECU's programmed fuel maps and ignition curves take control to add the necessary amount of fuel for making power whenever the throttle is increased.

    Fuel-cut mode shuts the fuel off when coasting in gear with the clutch lever out and throttle released or decreased sufficiently.
     
  5. Baza

    Baza Noble Member

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    Thank you for the above explanation, but my comment related to your use of the term “stoichiometric”, I very much doubt there many chemists on here.

    For the benefit of others I assume the initialism AFR is air/fuel ratio?
     
  6. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Yes to AFR ;)

    And stoichiometric is a theoretical value (around 14 parts air to 1 part fuel) to aim for going back to the olden days for most efficient burn. Now with lean burn technology I would expect all manufacturers to be well shy of this with the emission laws prevailing.
     
  7. MEM62

    MEM62 Well-Known Member

    Aug 24, 2020
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    The RPM on mine is slow to fall after closing the throttle too. This is in stark contrast to my GSF1250 and my wife's MT07 where the drop is almost instant.
     
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