Tuneecu Or Dealertool

Just this weekend I brought a TuneECU cable for my Street Triple which was just £12.83 and came with a software CD. The Windows software is free, unlike the Android software.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07HXGLPHQ

https://tuneecu.net/TuneECU_En/index.html

I've not used it yet, I need to familiarise myself with the software and documentation first.

 

Yes, sorry it does look like Android & BT only...

 

Probably depends on how much importance you place on the bluetooth side of things.

I have the dealertool & only use it for exactly what you are stating you will use it for & its fine. The obvious downside is you have to run a cable from the bike to a laptop, but to me this wasn't an issue & was my prefered option anyway.

Come to think of it, from memory the TuneECU didn't do a 2019 RS which may have made the decision easier!

So if you think the 'portability' of the TuneECU is worth the extra, go for it.
Being connected via cable will have less complications, but at the end of the day if you want the ability to check things anywhere, its only a few less lattes you have to go without on a few of those weekend rides

 

@BladeRR8
What did you end up getting?

Currently looking at getting a newer bike that requires the BT module to do similar things.

 

I got dealer tool, but not used it much.
But have used it to turn service light off, found it easy to use.

I'll be using it soon to bleed my brakes.

 

Let us know how that goes!

 

I'll do a video

 

Yes . . . please do. I use TuneECU on my Tigga 1050 for installing different maps and I have a gs-911 for my Beemer which cost more than I dare remember but I do want to service my Speed Triple myself and don't want a constant nagging service reminder and so very interested to hear your experiences on this!!

 

Can you balance the throttle bodies and clear fault codes using DealerTool on a Speed Triple RS?

 

Was using TuneECU this weekend on my 2016 Speed S with BT ODB2 Interface.
Checked the throttle bodies, reset adaptation, bleed ABS brakes after changing break fluid and clear off error codes.
Doesn't seem possible to read the current Map tho, not sure how to do that if I want to mess around with new ones.

 

Thanks SuperHans. What's reset adaption?

 

Saw a good well described answer from a chap in another Triumph forum.
Cut and paste from it below.

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PieMan
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Joined Feb 8, 2007
2,387 Posts
#4 • Aug 20, 2011
Reset Adaption

The purpose of this function is to reset the base values stored in the ECM back to the factory default state, this is not only the O2 sensors, but also all other sensors which report back to the ECM to aid in good running, e.g. temp sensors, air pressure sensor etc. Once reset the ECM starts from scratch and relearns the running conditions and adapts accordingly.

When a new tune is loaded or any other major engine component change is made, it is best to let the ECM start from a "clean slate" and adapt. For example, if performance cams are fitted, the engine inlet vacuum changes and the engine will run slightly different throughout the rev range compared to the standard cams. A new tune is neccasary to take this into account for the fuelling and ignition adavance, but then the adaption process starts from the default base settings and adapts for differing conditions. If it's a cold clear day the ECM will know this from the temp and pressure sensors and add a little more fuel to take in to account the extra oxygen being pumped through the engine, equally if it is a warm overcast day a little less fuel is added by the ECM. If a reset adaption is not carried out, the ECM will work with what it learnt before the engine mod was carried out and this may not be correct for the new engine conditions."

 

I'm also on the DucatiForum. Resetting the TPS is a big thing on there. Is this necessary occasionally on a Speed Triple? Can you do it with Dealer Tool?

 

Not sure if you can on a 2016, but can on my 2015 as long as you connect via cable (not BT)
I've done a map update in the past with the Windows version, but think you can also with Android via cable, I'll check next time I'm working on the bike (doing a valve clearance check next week while we're in lockdown).

 

You can set the TPS using TuneECU so I would imagine it's available in DealerTool also. However (IMO) it's not normally necessary unless it's been removed or replaced, according to the workshop manual the adaptive ecu adjusts the output automatically (I'll post an extract when I'm back at PC).
If the bike feels a little bit off tune the adaptive reset is always my first go to, balancing the throttle bodies would be next if it still feels off. With the Android TuneECU and Bluetooth it's a 2 minute job to check... but quite a bit of work to actually get to if they need adjusting.

 

If you are "messing" with the TPS you also need to check the clearance on the ISC stepper motor is correct

 

Brilliant. Thanks for that! Is that Dealer Tool or TuneECU?

 

Neither, that's an extract from the Triumph manual so is refering to the genuine Triumph tool the dealers would be using.
However I know TuneECU reads the throttle position/voltage, not having any need to run that procedure I don't know for sure whether it also drives the throttle closed for the adjustment procedure - I imagine it must do.