Triumph Wins Gold

Discussion in 'America, Speedmaster & Rocket' started by Marks, Apr 28, 2022.

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  1. Marks

    Marks New Member

    Apr 15, 2022
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    My recently purchased America is a joy to ride but Triumph has won the gold (by a country mile ) for the stupidest place to put an ignition key. Who was the retard that passed this in the design stage ? Clutch held in while in first gear so it does'nt roll away and now to turn off the ignition key. WTF??? Yes I know you could use the EMERGENCY kill switch but see how long you can do that before you get an electrical problem. Has anyone out there had the key fall out while on a ride? Do I need to rig something up to avoid this problem? Am I the only person who thinks this is a worry?
     
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  2. RJinTX

    RJinTX Member

    Nov 27, 2021
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    Never lost a key, except when the "dam-its" hide them in the freezer.

    It this a for sure issue?
     
  3. ChessNibbler

    ChessNibbler Member

    May 29, 2022
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    Orange County, NY
    @RJinTX "the dam-its"....hysterical. As a father...geee...I can't imagine what you're talking about. ;)
     
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  4. capt

    capt Elite Member

    May 8, 2016
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    western Australia
    I moved my key/ignition switch within weeks of ownership... ! IMG_20220605_201758_272.JPG
    Centre of the bars, visible just to left of the fuel tank chrome trim .. !
    Cut the cable and put extension wire's in , don't solder/join the wires to the harness junction/plug !! As the wiring must be routed along the frame under the fuel tank. The plug won't fit between the air filter and frame , to get under the rider's seat area ! This is where the ignition switch wiring plugs into the rest of the bike harness ! Join the wires (solder) and then plug it in.
    Been like this 130,00 km / 14 yrs no problemo...
     
  5. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

    Jun 12, 2020
    2,870
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    Yorkshire
    I don't know the model so can't really comment on the key location but why should repeated use of the kill switch cause potential electrical issues although, when I picked up the new Scrambler, the sales guy did advise to switch off with the key and not use the kill switch. Is this a Triumph thing? I've used the kill button countless times on previous bikes without problems.
     
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  6. ChessNibbler

    ChessNibbler Member

    May 29, 2022
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    Orange County, NY
    The owner's manual for my T120 says the same thing. Don't use kill switch except in emergency. Don't know why but would love to find out.
    @Pegscraper
    Heh heh... aren't they called "lean angle adjustment knobs" and not pegs??
     
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  7. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

    Jun 12, 2020
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    That's probably a better description but "knobscraper" didn't sound as street cred!:p
     
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  8. SpeedTwin1200

    SpeedTwin1200 Senior Member

    Jul 21, 2019
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    Hampshire
    It's a myth I reckon. And not just a Triumph thing. The kill switch, the ignition switch, the clutch switch and the sidestand switch are all switches that are used to start and stop the engine and which will one day wear out. So why would the kill switch cause electrical problems? My Triumph manuals says the reason not to turn off the engine with the kill switch is you might flatten the battery if you are dumb enough to leave the ignition on and walk away without the key. My KTM manual has the same dumb-dumb warning.

    Emergency kill switches are big and red and called emergency so that a non-biking bystander coming across a bike on its side with the engine running, might just be able to figure out that a big red switch will stop the engine. (The key might be under the bike.)

    I use the sidestand and the kill switch more often than the ignition switch. And I can remember to turn the ignition off and take the key out. Even on my keyless KTM, I can remember to turn the ignition off.

    The only problem I've ever had is with the ignition key, 30 years ago when I took my test. My bike wouldn't start and I was getting very hot and bothered using the kickstart in full gear in the summer heat. I was nervous and I just forgot, I'd been so used to riding off road bikes without keys. Once I'd realised my school boy error, I made sure the examiner wasn't looking as I turned the key on and started the engine.
     
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  9. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

    Jun 12, 2020
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    On my old Z1300 the kill switch didn't actually disable the starter so you could crank the engine over and sit there swearing and wondering why the dam thing wouldn't fire! Mind you I only did it once!:joy:
     
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