Speedmaster Speedmaster, Bobber. Same Frame?

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  1. Gled

    Gled Active Member

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    #1 Gled, Jun 26, 2018
    So I checked out the Speedmaster at my Triumph dealer and the frame and rear suspension setup look similar to those on my girlfriends’ Bobber. This got me wondering whether the Speedmaster rear sub-frame would fit on the Bobber because it would make a useful base for a frame-mounted rear luggage rack.

    I’m not aware of anyone selling an aftermarket rack.

    We’d like to do a little light touring and the Bobber has an obvious limitation in luggage carrying ability.

    Has anybody attempted this?
     
  2. Scoot65

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    #2 Scoot65, Jun 26, 2018
    From what I've read on various sites etc., the new Speedmaster is a basically a Bobber with a rear end .
     
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  3. MrOrange

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    #3 MrOrange, Jun 26, 2018
    Is there any mounting points?

    Might be cheaper to get a frame fabricated than to get a genuine Triumph item. Ask around and see if anyone local would bend and weld a frame up for you.
     
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  4. dilligaf

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    #4 dilligaf, Jun 26, 2018
    If the sub frame can be grafted onto the Bobber:confused:
    Where you gonna get one :confused:
    Would probably be better chopping in the Bobber for a new Speedmaster :p
    It’s basically the same bike :cool:
     
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  5. Rich Bryce

    Rich Bryce Dead Eye Dick

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    #5 Rich Bryce, Jun 26, 2018
    The Speedmaster is essentially a Bobber Black with a pillion and a bit of tubing to hang the foot controls off. If you prefer the riding position of the Bobber the foot controls can be relocated, and a Bobber or Bobber-style handlebar can be put on.
     
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  6. MrOrange

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    #6 MrOrange, Jun 26, 2018
    But he wants to know, does bobber frame have mounting points for the subframe?
    Can you find out at work?
     
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  7. evilsim

    evilsim Senior Member

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    #7 evilsim, Jun 27, 2018
    A tank bag works for me ...

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  8. Gled

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    #8 Gled, Jun 27, 2018
    She has a tank bag but could do with a rear luggage rack for the kitchen sink etc

    Nice bike, same colour tank as hers.

    Gled
     
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  9. Gled

    Gled Active Member

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    #9 Gled, Jun 27, 2018
    This is what I’m wondering. If the Bobber has the mounting points and I can get a look at the subframe and how it mounts I can get something fabricated.

    Gled
     
  10. Gled

    Gled Active Member

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    #10 Gled, Jun 27, 2018
    Chop in the beloved Bobber! I’ll let you tell her

    Gled
     
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  11. evilsim

    evilsim Senior Member

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    #11 evilsim, Jun 28, 2018
    200km in a tank.
     
  12. Rich Bryce

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    #12 Rich Bryce, Jun 28, 2018
    There is no separate sub frame on the Speedmaster as such. It's the sticky up bits at the back that are different to the Bobber and not available as separate items...
    Speedmaster frame.jpg
     
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  13. MrOrange

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    #13 MrOrange, Jun 28, 2018
    @Gled , you'll just have to get one of these instead ......



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  14. Gled

    Gled Active Member

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    #14 Gled, Jun 28, 2018
    Rich,

    Thanks for the research
    You’re a star.
    Unfortunately that means I’m back to the drawing board.

    Gled.
     
  15. Gled

    Gled Active Member

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    #15 Gled, Jun 28, 2018
    OMG

    I saw a moped in Thailand with a fridge-freezer on the back but this takes the biscuit

    Gled.
     
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  16. dilligaf

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    #16 dilligaf, Jun 28, 2018
    Don’t dismiss it out of hand but what about a trailer :grinning:
    I’m now into my second year using a trailer :cool:and will never go back to trying to carry everything on the back :(
    You said that you could do fabrication so make a tow bar for it :grinning:
    The one I made is removable in minutes when I’m finished with it :)and look how happy I am :grinning:
    I can’t emphasise enough how easy a trailer is to ride with in my experience it doesn’t affect the way that the bike handles at all :) F98ABF2F-6135-4393-B80B-08E85665549D.jpeg
     
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  17. capt

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    #17 capt, Jun 29, 2018
    I agree with Dilligaf ! I have two trailers and have towed behind 2000 955 sprint and 2009 America , towing barely affected the bike !! IMG_20180216_210005_032.JPG
     
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  18. MrOrange

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    #18 MrOrange, Jun 29, 2018
    Don't listen to them, trailers are a hideous carbuncle when attached to a bike. Think of those big clag of shite hanging from the arse of a sheep!!!!
    Next they'll be mentioning top boxes attached with lengths of old bits of pallets nailed on. :eek:
     
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  19. MrOrange

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    #19 MrOrange, Jun 29, 2018
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    That wee sheep looks scared !!!! :confounded::eek:

    :p:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
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  20. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    #20 dilligaf, Jun 29, 2018
    Yeah you can....I do it :eek:
     
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