I think with the evidence I have provided below we can be confident that Triumph pre dates all other motorcycle brands! Source “The Bible” compiled over many centuries by multiple contributors. 1 Chronicles 16:35 And say, Save us, O God of our salvation, And gather us, and deliver us from the nations, To give thanks to Thy holy name, To Triumph in Thy praise Isaiah 13:3 I have commanded My chosen ones;I have also called My warriors,who exult in My Triumph,to execute My wrath Daniel 11:7 In the place of the king of the South, one from her family will rise up, come against the army, and enter the fortress of the king of the North. He will take action against them and Triumph. ************************************************** It appears from Daniel 11.7 that John Bloor may have displeased the great sky grandad?