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  1. BZFMIII`

    BZFMIII` Member

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    Hi All
    I wanted to get the hive mind views of the types of connectors to assist remap/reset of maintenance.
    I've a bobber black and whilst I have the booster plug, I'm looking to get a remap.

    What I didn't realise is the range of connectors!

    I suspect I'l only use it once or twice so I wondered if there were any hints and tips you all have to share through your experiences.
    I'm looking to use TuneEcu
    Obdlink (bluetooth/wireless)
    Remap from DNK

    Happy to hear your thoughts
     
  2. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    I have OBDlink LX running with Tunecu for my 765 and it all works fine, fault code read/reset, throttle body balancing etc.

    I've not used it for mapping though so can't comment on that aspect.
     
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  3. BZFMIII`

    BZFMIII` Member

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    Thanks for that
    That unit is pretty expensive, was there a reason you selected that one?
     
  4. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    #4 Eldon, May 10, 2023
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    I'd read somewhere online that these units reliably connected to the bike and personal reviews spoke highly of it.
    I actually needed to use one at the time because I'd turned on the ignition to record the mileage whilst performing some servicing work with the tank off. A number of jackplugs were disconnected so triggered the EML.

    I also have a 675R which, with it being older, can run Tunecu via a cable however later bikes i.e. 765 so after 2016 ish, can ONLY run via bluetooth.

    I think I paid about £80 uk for the unit but you can use it with the supplied software for cars.
     
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  5. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    I would go for the Dealer Tool, this will meet your needs, it will not however allow for a re map, to alter the EMU with a re map is not for the average DIY person, you need specialist software and a rolling road, and the technical ability to use the equipment, unless you have the skills and equipment some modifications will be near on impossible to correct once you uploaded changes. The latest generation Triumphs automatically adjust the EMU to say a change in exhaust end can or de cat and a booster plug install will be re calibrated by the EMU after a few miles of riding. The Dealer Tool will not alter anything whatsoever in the EMU, nor does it have that function, so should you make changes and then wish to revert back to original settings then it is simple to do. Ride safe all from an ageing Rocker.
     
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  6. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    @Iceman what would be the benefit of dealer tool over tunecu or is it just a case of you are more familiar with one over the other?
     
  7. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    Hi Eldon, I have in the past used different types for cars and bikes, however for the Triumphs the Dealer Tool is Triumph specific, it will only work on this make, the software is up to date, you need only purchase the unit and this comes with your model of choice software included in the £60 cost, you can buy additional single model software (via a link from Dealer Tool) or a complete package that covers every model both previous and current, most independent Triumph workshops go that route. Another reason I chose the Dealer Tool is that I prefer using my laptop as this has a much larger screen to work with rather than say your average phone (some systems use phones only) the disadvantage with a mobile phone if working in a garage or workshop the internet connection can and does drop in some areas with no warning, then you have to go through the whole process again (and this gets frustrating), I have my laptop connected via an internet cable whilst working in my garage, so I don't get any drop/disconnection issues, this is especially important when bleeding the brakes, as you need the ABS pump valves open to purge the pump of old fluid and circulate the new fluid, this is only 1 example, also the Dealer Tool is one of the most straightforward tools in my opinion (others may disagree). At the end of the day it is what you think will suit you and your needs best. If you lived a little nearer you could call and I would demonstrate the Dealer Tool linked to a Triumph. You can always look on the website to see what features the tool can actually do, there are far to many to detail on a post. Completing say the 12,000 mile service correctly is really time consuming with the electronics alone, before checking/adjusting valves, stripping rear suspension linkage and re greasing etc etc, it takes me a full day and a half, although granted I am not as young as I used to be. Ride safe all from an ageing Rocker.
     
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  8. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Well-Known Member

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    +1 for Dealertool. Works a treat for me and does everything I need to carry out a full service on my Speed Triple.
     
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  9. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

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    +1 on the Dealertool software. I installed it on an old laptop running W7 32 bit and it runs fine despite the website saying you need W10 64 bit. I run it stand alone as an internet connection isn't required for what I use it for. As Iceman has said it's purely a service tool and cannot be used for remapping or performance upgrades but using it is simple and intuitive.
     
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  10. sgoat51

    sgoat51 New Member

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    OBDlink LX or MX are dependable and for me, worth the asking price. I would have most likely purchased the LX, but got the MX version only because I caught in on sale for the same price. I'd used it for the past 3 years for my R1200RS along with the Motoscan software, and just purchased the Tuneecu program for my new Speed Twin 900. Connected easily and seems to work as advertised.
     
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  11. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Thank you @Iceman for such a comprehensive reply.
     
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  12. Higerty

    Higerty Member

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    #12 Higerty, May 15, 2023
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    If you are uploading a DNK map you'll need one of the TuneECU approved adaptors,, there are about five, but look on the TuneECU website; www.TuneECU.net
    I use a Unicarscan 2100 as it's both reasonably priced and fully approved.
     
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  13. Jimbo1950

    Jimbo1950 Member

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    When you say "the latest generation Triumphs" when are you counting from? I have (among others) a 2019 Speed Twin 1200 and a 2019 Street Scrambler 900, and both of which have been de-catted and fitted with a fuel booster plug. The Speed Twin also has Tec slip ons in place of the standard end cans. Both bikes were modified professionally and the shop assured me a remap wouldn't be needed, and as both bikes run fine I've no reason to doubt them. As both bikes are Euro 4 rather than 5, you could argue they're not the latest generation though personally I wouldn't agree, "generation" to me covers a wider set of criteria. Would you agree with my interpretation?
     
  14. Higerty

    Higerty Member

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    Yes, I agree. The Euro4 ECUs' are pretty accessible, they run from (about) 2013... depending on model but the Euro5s' from 2022 are a lot more tied down.... You can't use a Power Booster for example and the ODB connector needs an adapter. TuneECU is still usable, but more limited, i dont know about DealerTool.
     
  15. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    The Dealer Tool covers the first generation Hinckley machines right up to the present models, some functions are limited on the first generation models however. In my post on Wednesday re BZFMIII question I did mention that just changing the rear exhausts on his Bobber Black does not require a re map, the same is true for models going back to say the the Street Triple 675s, however earlier models do require a re map as the EMU does not have the function to read and re calibrate the correct fuelling, otherwise the machine does not run as smoothly. I mentioned the Dealer Tool will not alter anything whatsoever in the EMU, nor does it have that function, so should you make changes and then wish to revert back to original settings you can do so via the Dealer Tool or main menu on the dash. I will upload a diagram and photos in the near future showing my Street Triple 765rs re map, with before and after graphs. When altering the ECU/EMU the existing map is downloaded onto a computer, this is for safety reasons, if something goes wrong, the original map will restore the bike to its previous state. Every engine is different, even on the same year and model, you need a custom map made for the best results. The equipment required for a re map is very very expensive, the majority of motorcycle race teams don't own these facilities. People will be well aware the current motorcycle MoT test does not include an emissions check, although that may change in the future If it does change then the existing map that was downloaded can be re uploaded for the test, also as an aside regarding the motorcycle MOT test does not include an exhaust noise test, this believe it or not is down to the testers discretion, a decibel meter is required to ascertain if an exhaust fails to meet the noise regulations, some smartphones do have this facility, however they are not type approved and would not be admissible as factual evidence in a court case for example. Gosh sometimes these threads go into overdrive so apologies to those who have become bored. Ride safe all from an ageing Rocker.
     
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