O2 sensor wanted

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  1. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    #1 Jody, Oct 28, 2016
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    Has anyone got a working O2 sensor they wish to be relieved of ?

    From what I've seen all Triumph ones are the same so any SHOULD be OK ha ha

    I'm sure mine has gone for a Burton as it runs better without it but just wanted to try a working sensor to see if it's better with it

    If you get what I mean....

    Cheers
     
  2. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Is your bike running a std factory map? If it isn't, the map you have might be written to exclude any feedback info from an O² sensor. This style of map is very common in the Bonneville world, but I'm not familiar with the Speed Triple crowd.

    Have you got TuneECU (free download) and a suitable cable to check what map you are currently running?
     
  3. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    It is a standard bike and was running 20490 (Std 95 ron map for ABS bike) but was very hit and miss low down, nothing happened then over 4k it took off like a 2 stroke plus guzzled fuel like a dehydrated camel

    I tried the 91 Ron map but it was gutless low down to the point of needing 3k to pull away

    Previous owner had an arrow fitted (or so the map that was loaded leads me to believe) so I weren't sure if the sensor had been left in but turned off and got ruined

    I turned the O2 off and reloaded 20490, reset adaptations and did the idle reset job and it was like night and day....but as always now I'm used to it I notice that it the response below 4k is not very good and at part throttle it's not the best....over 4k and wide open it flies

    Weren't sure if it's running a bit lean or rich low down...I'd say rich as the revs aren't hanging and there's no hesitation and drop of revs when cracking the throttle like lean running it's more like it needs to clear it's throat first

    Hence I just wanted another O2 sensor to try while saving for another exhaust and dynamic tune

    I'm got 140 mile on £15 of fuel mainly sat at around 3500-4k doing 60ish down the lanes to work

    Is this good or bad ?

    My previous Ducati was shocking so what I'm getting could be ace for all I know :D

    Cheers
     
  4. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    #4 thebiglad, Oct 28, 2016
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    1. Re fuel consumption - how many ltrs is £15 worth? Really to calculate your mpg you need tankful to tankful figures so that you know exactly how many ltrs you consumed, then you can do a proper mpg calculation. BTW just in case you don't know, there is 4.54 ltrs to a UK gallon. So for example you had consumed 12.5ltrs and you had travelled 140 mls the calculation would go 12.5/4.54 = 2.75galls; 140/2.75 = 50.9 mpg.

    2. Regarding the fueling and maps: - I'm not clear what the current set-up is so could you please answer the following: is the bike is full std trim Yes or No. If it's not in full std. trim what modifications have been made?

    Have you examined the spark plugs to see if the bike is running lean or rich?

    If the bike is currently in full std. trim and if the the std. factory tune is 20490 (check on the bike's ECU, the tune is shown on there, then it should be run with the O² sensor selected. It might be worth going onto TuneECU and downloading the factory version of 20490, just in case the version you are using has been modified or corrupted in any way.

    As part of the diagnosis of any problem we need to return it to a known 'good point' which in this case would be factory settings imo.
     
  5. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    So £15/111.9p = 13.4L
    13.4L/4.54 = 2.95gal
    140/2.95gal = 47.4mpg

    Is 47.4mpg OK for a Trumpet 1050 mainly cruising...

    Answers on a postcard :D
     
  6. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    I can't speak from personal experience Jody but If I was getting an accurate 47mpg out of a plus 1ltr bike I would be more than happy.
    That mpg does not indicate a major fueling crisis imo.
     
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  7. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    Cheers big lad

    Obviously just the inherent foibles of the standard mapping I'm noticing then
     
  8. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    If as you said in another thread all Triumph O² sensors are the same, I've got one here that I took off my 2010 EFi T100.
     
  9. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    Just checked and they are both the same part number on World of Triumphs parts list....

    What would you want for it mate ?

    Cheers
     
  10. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    I'll need to check that I can lay my hands on it, after our house move. I'll also need your full name and address to get the postage costs as I'm in France.

    I'll confirm tomorrow that I've got it, then we can talk money, perhaps in a private message?
     
  11. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    OK mate cool

    Thanks
     
  12. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Oh! Don't go all private on us now, spoilsports.
     
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  13. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Discretion dear boy, discretion. That's the watchword.
     
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  14. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    Don't worry...I'll make something up and post it here after, making us both look like Demigods ha ha
     
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  15. capt

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    #15 capt, Nov 5, 2016
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    Hi Jody, sorry to hear you still have a niggling fueling problem, happy to hear my instructions on resting map to throttle position helped you out , hope you get this low speed running sorted too.

    Cheers

    Hi Jody, just a thought, as I've just recently replaced my battery and it's had a big influence on how the bike runs, sounds possible that battery or charging system could have some affect here, as alternator/regulator wouldn't put full Volt's out until engine is spinning at good speed. My bike was a bit doughy when blipping the throttle at idle before battery change, now it really sounds much better and is more responsive, only had new battery in since Thursday not done any real miles yet so can't say what effect if any on mpg, but definitely pulls/responds better all throughout the rev range, Just another view on what might be going ion ?
     
  16. Jody

    Jody Active Member

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    #16 Jody, Nov 6, 2016
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    Cheers for the info mate.....Might have a look later what my battery is holding

    It has heated grips (wired straight to the battery) and did have wiring for GPS I think or heated clothing wired direct so there is the possibility of the battery having a hard life so far....

    All my bike has of any difference from standard is the O2 turned off

    Under 4k it's just sluggish at small throttle openings then as soon as I hit 4k it clears up

    If I try and pull away under 2k and tiny throttle opening it just doesn't go

    If I wind on too much throttle over 4k it kind of hesitates a bit....If I slowly open it (I don't mean snail slow probably 1 1/2 second to full open) then it flies...

    I just wanted to try a different O2 in so it's as it rolled out the factory

    My last bike was dyno tuned and the throttle was crisp everywhere so maybe I'm just looking into it too much
     
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