Featured If You're Never Going To Go Electric Raise Your Hand!

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  1. Ginkgo

    Ginkgo Well-Known Member

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    Gotta say, all this blather about electrics is just depressing! The factories and tech writers can say what they want, and offer what they want, but I'm not buying it. In fact, the record so far shows the riding public in general isn't either, witness Harley's spin-off of the Live Wire mistake, and other factory's generally slow movement towards...what exactly? Another flop and spin-off? Maybe they're hoping for the big break in battery tech that will enable a bike with boundless power and incredible range? Still, even if that day comes, who wants to ride a bike that murmurs a little gear whine? Remember how as kids we would clip baseball or football cards to the fender stays of our bicycles to make them sound like motors? Do you want to do that again? It's said that every action begets an equal and opposite reaction. We have not yet seen the reaction. I think "migration" to electric drive will become the next polarizing political issue, and woe to those politicos who hold onto the promise of an electric future. For good or ill, boys and girls, I want gasoline! And no one is taking away my Bonnie.
     
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  2. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    I have some empathy with your feelings towards electric bikes (and cars). However I fear that all governments will force the move from ICE motors. Hopefully it will not happen until it won’t matter for me.
     
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  3. Wattie

    Wattie Well-Known Member

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    Each to their own. I just see it as a progression of the motorbike. They've got 2 wheels, boundless torque (ok slight exaggeration) and sounds(!) like they can be great fun to ride. Drawback has to be range. I'd be happy with one if the range on tour could exceed 150 miles per charge and fill up time was around 10 mins. Trouble is you've got to have deep pockets to play at the moment.
    I've never been too concerned about engine noise (in fact it just makes me worry - what's that new noise etc). Exhaust noise, nah, never done it for me outside of the racetrack. It's the braking, cornering and powering out of corners that does it for me, and of course the overtaking ease in this crowded part of the earth I live in. I just hope I live long enough to see practical and reasonable priced ones, correction, I just hope I can still ride when they are around.
     
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  4. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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  5. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    Over priced vs the fun you get = no thanks
     
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  6. Golgotha

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  7. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

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    Well, never say never but over my dead body.
    I see Triumph have released more specs of there upcoming new TE1 electric bike.

    https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news...P&email_hash=92e0e777dee3490fc8427e978d8f7444

    173bhp and 220kgs is not to be sniffed at. An almost reasonable recharge time but 120 mile range?
    Nothing like good enough and is that 120 miles using all the power or 120 miles of commuting? A favourite, short evening Summer run of mine on the Z is to Cleethorpes and back on the old road, some 145 miles so that's out then, let alone day trips to Scotland!!
     
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  8. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Electric Bikes with that limited a range will fail to meet Australian conditions , in the Country where towns are an average 40/50 miles apart !
     
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  9. Jet City

    Jet City Noble Member
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    Same thing here in the western USA. It seems like eventually there will be electric bikes in cities and ICE bikes in thinly populated areas.

    Electric cars? They are going to be everywhere. Lucid has a car with a 500 mile range, and if they can do it in five years all the other auto manufacturers will too.

    Electric bikes tho…. it will be a long time until there is an electrIc bike that will go 500 miles on one charge.

    As for raising my hand, I love ICE. But would consider getting an electric motorbike someday, except I’m 61 and don’t anticipate there will one that suits me before I have to stop riding.
     
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  10. MARKYMARKTHREE

    MARKYMARKTHREE Senior Member

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    It wont be happening in this household.
     
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  11. Neal H

    Neal H Active Member

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    Never say never. I don’t think battery tech is quite there yet for bikes, but in 10 years time it probably will be. For now, it’s petrol power for me!
     
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  12. andypandy

    andypandy Crème de la Crème

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    Think i'll keep my ice bikes and have a beef sandwich. :D:yum
     
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  13. Dawsy

    Dawsy Cumbrian half-wit
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    As Neal H says, never say never but I really can't see me having one. Being a fan of sweet sounding engines since I was a kid there is no interest in a whining washing machine motor.
     
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  14. sprintdave

    sprintdave Nurse,he's out of bed again

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    Electric bikes, count me out, too old to change my ways now .
    As for battery life, well I'm sure that as the battery ages the mileage will drop too coz rechargeable batteries do slowly deteriate so you could end up getting stuck. Also new batteries would cost a fortune , I saw an article the other day of a guy who bought a 2nd hand Mercedes which was worth £12500, the battery failed and he was quoted £15000 to replace it.
    Do electric bikes have manual gears as I believe electric cars do not, that would take the fun out of it too.
    Never mind the lack of soulful noise.
     
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  15. PatW

    PatW Senior Member

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    For all the reasons covered above, cost, range and my age, I'm sure those we pass the baton onto will look back at us like we looked back at carbide lamps, leather belt drive and advance retard levers and wondered how we managed to get anywhere...
    I'm going to be consigned to history alongside my petrol driven motorcycle but knowing I lived through a golden age.
     
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  16. Golgotha

    Golgotha Guest

    And my guns, bacon, moonshine, muscle car, and big block V8 engined pick-up truck.
     
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  17. johne

    johne Standing on the shoulders of dwarves.

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    + 1 ,Never say never, but for now I'm sticking with my ICE engined vehicles.
     
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  18. Octoberon

    Octoberon Crème de la Crème

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    I'd have one if it appealed enough as a bike that I enjoyed riding (speed, handling) and looked good. It probably wouldn't be my only bike so putting all my eggs in one limited range basket wouldn't be an issue.
     
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  19. L0rdelpuz

    L0rdelpuz Member

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    I wonder when factories will stop building ICE cars bikes. Is t it supposed to be in 8yrs you won't be able to buy them new. I don't see that happening. I see a last min U-turn.
     
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  20. Sir Trev

    Sir Trev Senior Member

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    Personally I'm looking forward to seeing how the TT Zero goes this year. The speeds three years ago were amazing so with the development since then it will be interesting to see how much closer they can get to the Superbikes. Albeit over one lap not six.

    The way things have moved forward with electric cars in the last 10 years has been amazing to watch (from the sidelines - I've never been an early adopter) and bikes, with their lower volumes and more niche market were always going to lag behind. But the trickle down of technology will happen and if one suits my needs when they become suitable and a more sensible price then yes, I'd buy one.

    I've just bought an electric assist bicycle and it's an absolute hoot to ride. I would never have considered one a few years ago but the spec now is way better and way more reliable. So, never say never on the motorcycle front for me.
     
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