Great Music Debate - American Vs British Rock?

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  1. U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!

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  2. British....obviously

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  1. natnif

    natnif Member

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    How to write like Morrissey :D
     
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  2. steve lovatt

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    You don't have to like him - we just have to win this! :D
     
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  3. Sparkyphil

    Sparkyphil Well-Known Member

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    Too many on the British list that I would class as pop music.
    I agree with DD about Bowie.
    Early Black Sabbath, Maiden, AC/DC, Motorhead is what floats my boat
     
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  4. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Hey DD, don't worry about getting a T shirt for this year's GMU - I've ordered you one of these! :joy::joy:
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  5. Judd Dredd

    Judd Dredd Giver of Drugs, Vaccines and Hard Truths

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    can't believe I forgot iron maiden :scream:
     
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  6. steve lovatt

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    Humble Pie
    Rod Stewart and the Faces (pre "Do ya think I'm sexy" of course!) :D
     
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  7. quin

    quin New Member

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    Looking at the evolution of modern "western" music, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock etc. It seems to me that the Americans invented it, but the British twisted it in a way that made it perfect. Even country music was heavily influenced by the "English accent" lead guitar players as they called it. Every band from over there points to American performers as a leading influence.

    For me the British win.
     
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  8. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    Rolling Stones and The Who and several others in the starting list. UK clinches it.

    But my all time favourite songwriter and performer bar none, and so far not mentioned that I can see is...

    ...Tom Waits (good ol' US of A)

    Clever, clever lyrics, beautiful melodies, brilliant poetic observations on life. The voice, I know, spoils it for many. But, he's the man! Trumps (if you'll pardon the expression) them all.
     
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  9. Callumity

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    I did say ‘there is no accounting for taste’. The Smiths, however, fall outwith the bounds of taste. They are the most contrived pursuers of teenage angst in the history of shameless manipulation - on a par with the morons who think dragging a finger on the frets demonstrates real musicianship.

    I also remember the court case.....
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/209224.stm

    Morrissey and Marr did not emerge as credible witnesses........
     
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  10. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    #30 Dougie D, Feb 18, 2019
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    Britain is running away with this
    maybe you can clarify something,i'ts about about Toms voice when i first heard him sing in the early 70s his voice sounded pretty normal then the next time i heard him it was like he was gargling with broken glass,i thought he was just putting it on and it just put me off him, but his voice hasn't changed since then so obviously something happened? i've googled it and can't find any explanation? i 've got "Rain Dogs" and "Bad as me" as you say great lyrics and i'm quite liking his voice nowadays!
     
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  11. steve lovatt

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    I've just ordered your T shirt to go with DD's! :joy::joy:
     
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  12. Biker Jock

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    I think TW has always been able to turn on the gravelly (gargling with broken glass) voice to some extent. I first heard him on The Old Grey Whistle Test, and Whispering Bob said you'll either love or hate the voice but you can't be neutral. I think booze and cigs may have contributed towards it, though. It's my understanding that his wife, Kathleen Brennan cleaned him up and saved the great man from drinking himself to extinction (but I don't know if he was that bad).

    Even on the relatively recent, Bad as Me, there is great genius - Hell Broke Luce - even the dual meaning in the title is brilliant. But what a heavy, rocking, stomping, angry anti-war song. Is it the story of Jeff Lucey?
     
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  13. Callumity

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    Thanks, you really shouldn’t have but as it happens I’ ve a dunny that needs a good wipe down ......
     
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  14. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    yeah it seems a mystery..no one seems to know :confused:,but on his first 2 albums his voice is pretty normal, but every other album since his voice is totally differant..only he knows i guess!
     
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  15. Callumity

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    Switched from budgie smugglers to boxers?
     
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  16. triumph900

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    I’m American but have always favored British rock. BTW you missed a one from each list, Mott the Hoople on the British side, Cheap Trick on the American!
     
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  17. Biker Jock

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    Having studied the lists at the start again, there are great talents from both sides of the pond. But unless I've missed it somewhere in the thread, why has no one mentioned...

    The Boss... Bruce Springsteen...

    ...and the E Street Band, of course.
     
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  18. Dartplayer

    Dartplayer Crème de la Crème

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    Grew up with British bands, but with Jimi Nirvana, Chillies and Pumpkins being my favourites, I changed my vote.
    The Cure was a big influence in my teens.
     
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  19. Wishbone

    Wishbone First Class Member

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    Nazareth, Sensational Alex Harvey Band, Coloseum, Badfinger Loads of quality still to go??

    Brit Rock wins again.
     
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  20. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    I'm not naming any names but some folk have Sh*te taste in music:p just goes to show how musical tastes differ!
     
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