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Agreed, great that they understood their mistake so quickly and turned it around, shame Boris and his lot can act so quickly when they drop a clanger.

 

Major difference between the two. Boris is the leader of an independant country and the EU bureaucrats are unelected self satisfying twats, so they can behave just as they like without any come back.

 

The worrying thing is that they made such a monumental fuck up in the first place.
Barely a month after leaving and they threaten the Irish border after all the fuss about the good Friday agreement.
No hypocrisy there then!

 

Absolutely, that’s ones thing you can say about Boris and his lot, no hypocrisy at all. Well apart from the driving for the eye test thing, and, and .......

 

Again,major difference between an internal political handbags and a serious mistake with major international consequences,but I don’t understand why you’re trying to defend the indefensible,unless you’re still wearing those Euro blinkers.

 

Wasn’t Boris considering breaking international law? Likewise I am not sure why you are defending Boris unless you are a lickspittle.

 

Why are you giving Boris a kicking? Or maybe you think there is somebody out there who could be doing a better job giving the current shit storm we are living through....

 

It doesn't bear thinking about what the present situation would have been like if Corbin, Macdonald and the Abbot had been in charge.

 

I raised the same question in post number 3042.

 

Thanks Mark,I’ll probably have nightmares tonight

 

If you were in the middle of some negotiations which were slightly important, and the other party were being particularly intransigent wouldn't you use any "threats" you could to gain an advantage?
Much as some bloke called Michel Barnier was doing for the EU?

 

Or Trump..... Oh, wait! I know what the present situation is with Trump being in charge until less than a month ago. And it's not good.

 

I think it’s fear rather than arrogance Tom. They are in a bloody deep hole, and don’t know when to stop digging.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...uck-deal-to-guarantee-vaccine-supply-12204044

 

Good news that over half a million were vaccinated in the U.K. yesterday,another step towards freedom.

 

Captain Tom Moore.
Is fighting Covid,I 'm sure we all wish him well in yet another fight he faces.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-55881508

 

Hopefully Brexit will push Brussels to have a better think at their actions.
As most of the contributors on this thread are from UK, let me give an inside view from France. EU decision on vaccine is also massively blamed. Macron with his failed attempt to promote Sanofi is also pointed.
Had a phone call yesterday with a German friend of mine, and the main feeling about EU regarding vaccine supply is similar.
Angela Merkel is also pointed because she is the one that pushed to order vaccine for EU as a whole with rebates.
EU severely outdid, this is not to be questioned.
From that to think other countries will leave, it's a bit anticipated. EU certainly need to change their actions.
For France or Germany leaving EU would bring absolutely no gain.
You would be surprised by the Frexit party profiles in France. They are a very little minority, all far right with lots of conspiracy elements in their talk. Not really constructive people, but that is anecdotal.

 

Wishing you well Sir Tom

 

IMHO, it's unlikely other countries will start an exit process from EU. Poland is currently leaning into a very conservative politic behavior, but they can't trade enough outside EU.
UK was different from the start. They joined EU almost only for trading purpose. And even considering that, the exit was really disputed. As you say, time will tell.
To come back to the thread, EU showed it's inertia to make a decision.
Do you know that Moderna boss is french? He proposed the RNA first to the french government, they didn't answered.
US have the best vaccine from a company led by a frenchman. How ironical

 

It's know since yesterday.
Yes it's frustrating.
In another hand, France did very well on the lockdown and prevention. We have "only" 75000 covid victims.
If they could have been that efficient on vaccine..