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  1. andypandy

    andypandy Crème de la Crème

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    Or maybe Conspiracy Cal is right ?
     
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  2. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    Yep it could be, I guess time will tell.
     
  3. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    You flatter me. I don’t actually allege any specific conspiracy.

    I have no firm idea WHY but I am pretty darnn certain we are being told fairy stories to justify decisions. Blatant scare tactics compounded by ‘case’ numbers out of kilter with clinical cases and chickens coming home to roost within the NHS. Mainstream media uncritically spouts propaganda and extrapolates individual cases as representative of ‘the new norm’. Masses of umbrellas going up and staff quietened or speaking out of turn.

    Mass hysteria or sinister? Dunno but it’s definitely ‘hinky’ as Sweden, Florida etc., show. There ARE alternatives but the debate won’t be had....yet. However the cracks are growing. Weird changes in accumulated test results that are clearly down to process or manipulation because they do not reflect any biological rate of progression. All regions merging and taking off?

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  4. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    #2404 Sprinter, Jan 3, 2021
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    The " gray vote" is the single most important block vote , to all 1st world countries, and also the most at risk group.

    Edit. Also the average age of our leaders and experts.
     
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  5. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Gay or grey?
     
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  6. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    That's the idea, keep em happy.
     
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  7. figwold

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  8. DCS222

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    I liked @Sprinter idea (I think it was- apologies if I have it wrong) of a specific Covid TV program which address various aspects of Covid... from generalised health advice (think long-Covid etc) to discussions about actual figures being reported. It could allow “scepticism” a real forum for debate... hell, it could have guest editors to control balanced content etc.
    I’m not sure the Auntie is the best place for it (though it bloodywell should be).
     
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  9. learningtofly

    learningtofly He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
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    Or maybe sponsored by big pharma :imp:
     
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  10. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    You might just check what ‘confirmed’ actually means in each country. In our case it means a positive PCR test which some studies show has a 91+% false positive rate. Another one of those inconvenient truths that cannot be suppressed indefinitely......
    Symptomatic patients are a quite different matter.
     
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  11. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    You probably got this number from twitter? :)
     
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  13. Callumity

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  14. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    At the risk of boring Hubaxe, the underlying problem with counting ‘infections’ is the slavish use of PCR stats which overstate the problem by varying amounts because of issues with swabs, cross contamination and the cycles used. We should place limited faith in anything but symptomatic admissions.
     
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  15. DCS222

    DCS222 Guest

    I appreciate that Cal... but the link I provided was for deaths, not infections
     
  16. DCS222

    DCS222 Guest

    Except it wasn’t, apologies
     
  17. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Nae botha! There is no statistical consistency between deaths and ‘infections’ aka ‘cases’ which tells its own story.
     
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  18. DCS222

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    Ahh, there’s a filter button on the mobile link that shows just the deaths... I don’t know how to post just that dataset
     
  19. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    #2419 Hubaxe, Jan 4, 2021
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    Serious studies don't mention +90% false positive. That scam started from "One America News Network" relating false information wrongly attributed to the New York Time". And now spreaded on all conspi pages you like so much.
     
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  20. Callumity

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    Like The Lancet? It has published papers insisting the UK testing is pretty unreliable. Just watch German Courts. Doubtless you won’t put any figure on a problem you deny even exists.
     
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