Bar end Mirrors - removing the original fixing

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  1. Frenchda

    Frenchda Well-Known Member

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    Just got a set of the original 3 Piston bar end mirrors (3 Pistons have sold out of these so had to buy used on ebay).

    My question is how the f*5k do I get the original fixing out????
     
  2. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    If you're talking about the fixing inside the bar, you don't remove it. You leave it in place and use it to attach your new mirrors
     
  3. Frenchda

    Frenchda Well-Known Member

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    OK get this, the fixings that came with the mirrors are much "beefier" but will not fit the original thread. Is there a way to remove?
     
  4. steve lovatt

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    Do you mean the insert that the bar end weights screw into? If so biglad is right - I have just fitted bar end mirrors to my SE and found that the expanding fixing on the mirror would not fit into the space between the insert and the ends of the bar. I didn't use the fitting in the end but bought longer bolts so that I could attach them directly to the insert whilst still using my original bar end weights. 2017-03-25 15.12.58.jpg

    On my T100 I did remove the inserts when fitting my Halcyon bar end mirrors. They were welded top and bottom and I used a big hammer with my largest flat bladed screwdriver to hit them out. One good whack and it broke the weld - but be warned - the inserts get jammed in the bars.
     
  5. Frenchda

    Frenchda Well-Known Member

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    Do you know what size pitch the original bolts are?
     
  6. Col_C

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    There are two different thread sizes used on the bar inserts, I think it depends whether its standard or R version as they have different bars. I have the Triumph bar end mirrors fitted to my R and the first set the dealer sent were wrong with bolts too large. From memory it's M5 for standard and M4 for the R (but I could be wrong) - standard pitch for both.
     
  7. steve lovatt

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    On the SE they are M5 x 0.8 x 30mm
     
  8. Frenchda

    Frenchda Well-Known Member

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    Thanks all.
     
  9. Dozers Dad

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    Hi Frenchda,

    All of the above advice is correct. However if you really want the original inserts out?...

    Screw a longer bolt in so it sticks out past the end of the bar. Then lever it out. Work your way around the bolt with something like a claw hammer.
    Imagine the end of the bar like a clock face. Start at 9. Then move to 3 then to 6 then 12 etc
    You only want to be getting a couple of mm of movement each time you put pressure on the lever. Otherwise you could end up with the insert getting wedged in the handlebars?

    Also be careful not to damage the bars or rubber grips.
     
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  10. Dozers Dad

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    The thread pitch it more than likely 1.25mm
     
  11. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    #11 thebiglad, Apr 27, 2017
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    Why don't you just take the original bolt to your bolt shop and say I want some like this but a bit longer.

    Or alternatively, do what I did. Fix your new mirrors with the bolts that were already on the bars, holding the end cap in place. They were sufficiently long to fit mine ??
     
  12. Col_C

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    If it's M5 then pitch is 0.8, if you've got M4 then it's 0.7 pitch
     
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  13. RoadSprocket

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    When i changed my bar end mirrors I just reused the bolt and bar end, worked a treat.
     
  14. steve lovatt

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    That's what I did but had to buy a longer bolt than the standard 30mm one.
    Just check the correct bolt for your bike on the parts page of world of triumph.
     
  15. MickEng

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    It sounds like using longer bolts is the easiest and best fix, but if you do need to remove the bar end inserts, the use of a slide hammer is a simple and effective method.
    A simple slide hammer can be made up from a long hex head bolt screwed into the insert to be removed.
    A heavyish drilled weight (the hammer bit) is used to 'slide' up the bolt and repeatedly 'hammered' under the head of the bolt until the insert is removed.
    It is important that the bolt is screwed into the insert as far as possible to gain maximum hold and minimise the chance of the thread stripping.
     
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  16. Dozers Dad

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    Yes Mick,
    That would be the professional/Engineers solution to getting them out mate.
    I just assumed Frenchda wouldn't own a slide hammer?
     
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  17. MickEng

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    Not really a professional solution DD, just a longish bolt and a heavyish bit of steel with a hole through it, clearance on the thread diameter but small enough to hammer under the head of the bolt.
    Great little nick-nacks to have in your tool kit.
     
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  18. Col_C

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    Ah!!!
    Tool kit....
    Nick-nacks that do stuff.....
    That'll be a professional then.
    ;):D
     
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  19. Dozers Dad

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    I've just looked on Halfords website for "Nick-nacks" No joy?

    Am I spelling it correctly? :rolleyes: :D
     
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  20. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    It all depends what level of Trade card you blagged, wether or not you can access 'nick-nacks'
    You could try 'Paddy-wack' initially, supplemented with 'give a dog a bone' if no joy!
     
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