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Discussion in 'Triumph General Discussion' started by JD_Lincs, Aug 10, 2020.

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  1. Samz

    Samz Elite Member

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    #41 Samz, Aug 27, 2020
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    After spending over £9k on a new SS I would be seriously pissed off if I needed spend yet more money to get decent, rear shocks, fork internals, inner tubes, fuel boost plug, throttle mod etc. Do these deficiencies not show up on a decent test ride? I’m sure Triumph are well aware their products are not quality items but will do nothing to change them as long a people keep on buying their sub standard bikes. Shame on Triumph.

    PS. Let’s not start again with the “comfort” seat scam!
     
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  2. cliverdee

    cliverdee Well-Known Member

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    Guess it’s what you expect out of a bike and how and where you want to ride it... I’ve had the 1st generation SS and traded up to the newer one purely because of the improved front brakes and higher bhp giving a noticeably better power range. My only issue was with the front inner tube on both bikes which my dealership sorted without hassle on both bikes... I’ve done about 4K miles combined with both bikes and have never thought I needed to change any of the set up from stock so am one happy customer... still enjoy the bike immensely every time I go out and can’t think what I would want to swap it for even if thinking of a change... I don’t go charging about off road so can’t comment on the bike in those conditions but guess the clue for where it’s intended use is in its name .. street scrambler ... of course once you’ve paid your money it’s your bike to change whatever you want to suit your individual taste and that’s absolutely fine and keeps the aftermarket economy in business..
     
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  3. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

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    I think a lot depends on an individual rider's expectations of a machine. The SS rides pretty much as I expected it to given it's component spec, certainly not perfect but few bikes are. I also got over £1200 of the list price which was a bonus. Back in 2011 I blew £16k+ on a 1198SP but fell out with it quickly and sold 3 months later despite having a test ride. I part-exed an '04 R1 I'd had from new to get it and never regretted selling a bike as much, before or since.
     
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  4. Samz

    Samz Elite Member

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    Good to hear you got £1200 off the list price. Did they give you a reason for this? Older model? Just not selling?
     
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  5. JD_Lincs

    JD_Lincs Well-Known Member

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    #45 JD_Lincs, Aug 27, 2020
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    My reserve light comes on when it shows 80(!) miles to go. It was showing less than 20 to go when I filled up and considering my normal fill-ups cost less than a tenner and this was £10.50, I'd say it was close to a cupful :)

    Anyway, I was a bit pissed off when I wrote my first-servicing post, this afternoon I was keen to get out on the thing again. It does ride very nice round the local roads, there's no denying it. Rain for the next two days and I got soaked enough on last Sunday's ride, so I'll wait until it gets dry before I go out again. I bought myself one of those pet dryers rebadged as a bike dryer and it's fun to use, so I'll do some cleaning in the workshop in the meantime. Oh - got the suspension to do, of course, along with the fuel booster unit.

    ECU reset? Not heard of that.
     
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  6. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

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    The tank is quite small on the SS so range will never be in the tourer/adventure bike class. Ive found MPG can vary quite a bit depending on how "enthusiastic" you are on your ride.
    I've also bought a bike dryer recently and it makes washing &drying the thing far easier.
    I'm sure I've read on here somewhere that the ECU reset procedure is simply letting the bike idle for 20 minutes or so.
     
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  7. JD_Lincs

    JD_Lincs Well-Known Member

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    It's actually a real fun bike around the local roads and that's what I bought it for. I can't ride that far these days - age and condition (mine!) not so good and as much as I'd like to go galavanting across Europe on two wheels, it ain't gonna happen. Did enough of that on 4 wheels and on foot in the 80's and 90's, so I don't feel too left out. I was late to the party and had zero interest in bikes until I was into my 30's. Had a go on my brother's CB250 when I was 16 but didn't like it at the time, though I came very close to buying a friend's DT125 for a hundred quid. I was due to go overseas, though, so it didn't happen.

    I thought I'd upload the first service info - seen lots of people around the net asking what is done, so hopefully they will find this info:

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  8. JD_Lincs

    JD_Lincs Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget that this series is effectively Triumph's bottom of the range stuff - so none of it is top quality - or anywhere near.

    How it rode on the test ride was the reason I decided to get aftermarket suspension. I had a Street Twin courtesy bike and apart from it being a bit quicker and higher pegs - I actually got cramp in both legs as I rode away from the dealers - there was barely any difference as far as the ride goes.

    edit: also bear in mind the local roads are bumpy - some extremely so, and I am 6ft tall and weigh 105kg nekkid.
     
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  9. Samz

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    So if £9000+ only gets you budget (poor quality, not really up to the job) components how much more do you have to spend to get decent kit!? I’ve heard similar woes on the higher cost Speed Twin which you alluded to. There is just no excuse for Triumph fitting such piss poor items. May be to appease the bean counters but does anyone know the price of a pair OEM shocks to buy compared to Hagon or other after market suppliers? A lot more I bet. So why fit naff ones in the first place? As has been said before, it’s all down to personal taste and some folks find them adequate, but seemingly a lot don’t.
    You say the test ride high lighted the problem yet you still bought. So may be Triumph are right all along, “we can make em sub standard but they’ll still sell” Did you return to the dealers and tell them the shocks weren’t good enough and you’d be replacing them? Not that they’d be bothered in the slightest, “just sign here sir”.
    Can’t ever imagine this happening in the car industry.
    “ That Golf is lovely, but I’ll be changing the suspension, front and rear when I get it home”. :yum
    Triumph (Hinckley) built its reputation on good quality, decent priced bikes. Now we seem to have to many similar models of average (or below) quality at higher end prices. Tis a slippery slope Triumph is on and it looks like it’s gonna get a whole lot steeper!
     
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  10. Pegscraper

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    The whole idea of wether or not something is worth the price or "not up to the job" is subjective. I've owned and ridden enough bikes over the years to know that most (excluding race machines) are a compromise. Those wearing an off road/on road badge, like the SS, even more so. I already own a full on dirt bike (crap on the road) and a fast road bike so for me personally, the SS as a whole, looks, ride, practicality, performance, is what I wanted and expected. OK, maybe the 1200 engine in there would be nice and stick a cherry on the performance (not interested in a 1200XC/XE) but overall I'm happy with it. As far as the price goes I was looking into a purchase at list price but fell very lucky in getting a bike that was prepped and PDI'd ready for pre-registration and sale just before the Covid lockdown hit which meant it couldn't be registered so it sat in the showroom until they reopened in June and could register the bike on a new 20 plate which they then sold at the pre-reg price they had originally planned. With hindsight I'd still have bought it at full sticker price, the discount was just a big bonus.
     
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  11. JD_Lincs

    JD_Lincs Well-Known Member

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    Makes me wonder what you are doing on a Triumph forum if they are such a bunch of twisted rip-offs and only mugs buy them?

    But you're not talking sense - if what you are saying is accurate, then there wouldn't be any aftermarket industry, because every bike would be perfect and every one would be up to the job.

    I've no intention of discussing this. If you want to make a thread about the rights and wrongs of a bike manufacturer making sub-perfect machinery go ahead and do it - but I'm not interested - please take your soap box elsewhere.
     
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  12. Daveweld

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    Hello JD. hope you are still enjoying the Scrambler. I find them very easy motorbikes and fun.
    Improvements from standard are the same on all makes of cars and bikes. All manufacturers offer extra options.
    I have covered 1900 mile and enjoyed everyone of them. Today I have fitted the Fox rear shocks. Decided to smooth out a few bumps and potholes. Will let you know how it goes after a few ride outs.

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  13. Daveweld

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    Day 1 with Fox Shocks.
    Out on the Scrambler today to try out the settings on the Fox Shocks. The original shocks are not that bad, but they do lift you off the seat on a bump or combinations of bumps. They Fox Shocks keep you in the seat and the wheel on the ground. A much improved ride on the Street Scrambler.
     
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  14. Daveweld

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    Having now rode the Scrambler with the new Fox Shocks for quite a few rides. I am impressed with the improvement and handling. My bike is a Street Scrambler 2019. The bike is much more stable in corners and overall comfort is greatly improved. The big surprise is that the front forks are a much better balance and work well with the rear Fox Shocks. They both work as a team.
    I now have no reason to look at putting Progressive fork springs in.
     
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  15. Daveweld

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    I added the Fox Shocks that greatly improved the ride and handling. Already had the Triumph Clear screen. Still had a bit of wind buffering when riding at 60-80mph.
    After visiting my Triumph dealer I had a look at the new Tiger 900 Rally. The Hand guards are perfect shape for the Street Scrambler 900. Not too bulky or heavy and fit on the bar end and the mirror mounting point.
    I have now taken the Triumph for a ride today and the temperature is falling. Normally have cold fingers unless wearing winter gloves. This time, No cold fingers and wearing summer gloves ! and the bonus was that the wind buffering I experience between 60-80mph, now I have added the Hand Guards this has gone. They work really well with the Triumph short touring screen.

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  16. Gyp

    Gyp Well-Known Member

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    #56 Gyp, Oct 18, 2020
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    Those look really good - I'll have to investigate!

    I've done a quick investigate - do you have part number(s) and prices as the configurator isn't showing them and the places with the online parts don't list the Tiger 900 as yet?
     
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  17. Daveweld

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    I had to order them by part numbers from the Tiger 900 Rally (Not the PRO). The cost with the VAT for all the parts is about £105.00
     
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  18. Daveweld

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    GYP. just went out to the recycling bin and pulled out the Triumph plastic bags to get the part numbers.... lol .
    Handguard RH = T2316000
    Handguard RH bracket = No sticker on the plastic bag
    Handguard LH = T2315000
    Handguard LH bracket = T2318000
    Nut,captive M5, Need 2 = T3350129
    Screw,but/HD.M5 , Need 2

    Basically you need for each side a LH and RH set. Each set needs the Handguard, Bracket back to mirror, a bar end round disc and a screw to go through it, then at the mirror bracket you need the small clip with the thread in it to push over the plastic flange on the inside of the handguard. Then last you need the screw that goes through the bracket and bolts the guard into one section.
    I went into the Triumph dealer and asked them to get the drawing onto the screen and ordered the parts as it is not in a kit.
    You need to slightly modify the Right hand one so to accommodate the front brake cup in the original place (see pictures).
    Any questions just ask.
     
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  19. Gyp

    Gyp Well-Known Member

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    Thank you so much for that.

    I'm amazed that the guards aren't offered as a kit for the base model as that one comes without them - mind you with Triumph's pricing the kit would likely be £210.

    RH bracket is T2319000.

    Found this https://www.bike-parts-triumph.com/...er-900-rally/HANDGUARDS/123/10011531027/0/123 by doing a part number search
     
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  20. Daveweld

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