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  1. Judd Dredd

    Judd Dredd Giver of Drugs, Vaccines and Hard Truths

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    #1 Judd Dredd, Oct 31, 2020
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  2. littleade

    littleade The only sane one here
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    Yes it is, I just watched it and was going to post the link too;)
     
  3. learningtofly

    learningtofly He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
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    This may be a stupid question, but why on earth do we still have metallic fuel tanks?
     
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  4. littleade

    littleade The only sane one here
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    Probably because in part Triumph's biggest sellers are their "Heritage" naked range of bikes and it would be very difficult to produce a plastic tank that looked good ? Plastic ones are cheaper but you then have to hide them behind panels. That's easily done on the other types of bikes but not on the "old style" stuff. They could make them from aluminium (BMW do) but they cost more to produce that steel ones.
     
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  5. learningtofly

    learningtofly He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
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    #5 learningtofly, Oct 31, 2020
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    Yes, aluminium would seem to be the obvious answer, but in more general terms it just seems to me that the situation with regard to tanks is much like that of chains (IMO, anyway). I'd have thought that - after decades and decades of advances - there would be alternatives to the old technologies and materials. I find it all a bit puzzling.
     
  6. littleade

    littleade The only sane one here
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    Chains? What are these things you speak of ......:laughing:
     
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  7. JtC

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    I watched this too (I like all his videos) and was immediately thankful I've never had to use any stabilizer. It looks like a lose-lose situation and a lot of the problem is in using effing corn to make fuel.
     
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  8. Lou160487

    Lou160487 Well-Known Member

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    I watched it too. For me his final comments were great. If you think you need a stabilizer just put non ethanol gas in it. Ryan is an intelligent young man. I like the fact he doesn't seem to pander to manufacturers.
     
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  9. Rocker

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    I've never used any fuel stabiliser in the past but having several bikes to store some for more than this winter guess what? I gone and done it used stabil, then watched this video :(
    Just got lucky picking the only one with half a recommendation :)
    And yeah final comments were interesting but where can you buy ethanol free petrol even super unleaded is marked as E5 at the pumps and I was lead to believe it was ethanol free :mad:
     
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  10. Sandi T

    Sandi T It's ride o'clock somewhere!
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    This guy really produces excellent videos with helpful information. Thanks for posting this one, Judd. :)
     
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  11. Iamtheonlyone

    Iamtheonlyone Senior Member

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    Esso super unleaded petrol (Synergy Supreme+ Unleaded 97) is ethanol free (except in Devon, Cornwall, the Teesside area and Scotland).20 Apr 2020
     
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  12. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    Weird some areas have Ethanol, where most don't. Given the areas in question, I can only imagine one effect of Ethanol is you no longer want to sleep with your sister, which would be catastrophic for the population in said areas.
     
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  13. Rocker

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    That's what I thought but the pump is marked E5
     
  14. Flashp

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    I remember working on my Sprint and finding about 300ml of that gloop in the bottom of the tank. I had been using Stabil when I lay a bike up but clearly a full tank of Ethanol free is the way to go.

    As an aside, the quality of the production in their videos is outstanding. Well informed as well. I thought I heard he had a science degree or something, may be wrong on that...
     
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  15. Flashp

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    It'd be really handy if they marked them 'E0' using that convention.
     
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  16. bob1

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    does America have worse petrol than us to start with
     
  17. Don the Don

    Don the Don Bigger Than The Average Bear

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    I believe they already have E10, saying that it's much cheaper than what we are forced to pay over here, taxed to hell
     
  18. beerkat

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    We've been through this ethanol question before, elsewhere on this forum. If you try the 'search' facility you'll find a ton of info.
    Finding ethanol-free petrol is tricky but it is still available from some locations. However it's no good asking the people at the petrol station as they never have a clue. The government is likely to stop the sale of ethanol-free petrol in the near future.
    If you are going to leave your bike unused for several weeks or even months then obviously filling up with ethanol-free is an option. Personally I wouldn't do that, I prefer to use them. My 3 bikes are MOT'd & taxed all year round and I get them on the road as often as possible, even through winter. We have some glorious winter days. Yes, councils sometimes chuck salt on the roads (but not as often as they used to) but it isn't a big deal to wash it off, so I think that's a poor excuse. Not one of my bikes has ever suffered from occasional winter use.
    However if you do decide to stick your bike into hibernation then I reckon the best thing is to drain the tank, just to be on the safe side.
    Incidently, two of my bikes are 30 & 26 years old. They have carbs not fuel injectors and are even more prone to damage from ethanol (which eats rubber seals if left in contact with them). I have lined their fuel tanks because rust particle were collecting in fuel filters. But that won't protect the carbs, they need to be used.
    Ethanol is only a problem if it's allowed to sit in the tank for weeks. Get your bike out once a fortnight, for 30+ miles and it will be fine.

    learningtofly mentioned bike chains and wondered why they still require maintenance. You'll be glad to hear that a non-maintenance chain has been engineered by, I think, BMW (recently reported in the bike comics). It shouldn't be long before all chain manufacturers suss it out and they are available for most bikes, so a bit of good news.
     
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  20. English Bowman

    English Bowman Well-Known Member

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    I don't agree with you there, the Sprint 1050ST and the Tiger both had plastic tanks, they looked fine. then there was a problem with the plastic reacting with the ethanol in the fuel and swelling, so the later Sprints went back to metal tanks, they're better. Also you can use a magnetic tank bag on them. Having had a plastic tank on my ST I'm so pleased that the GT has a metal tank, the two look the same, but the metal is better.
     
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