2009 Triumph Speed Triple 1050 Starting Problem

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  1. Banksy

    Banksy New Member

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    Hi,
    I am new to the site but hoping someone can give me some clues? My 2009 Triumph Speed Triple 1050 refuses to start. When I press the starter all I get is a faint clicking noise from the relay under the seat? I have replaced the solenoid but no change? I can start it when I short the terminals on the solenoid but that's obviously not ideal - could anyone suggest where I should look for the answer, please?

    Cheers
     
  2. TEZ 217

    TEZ 217 Crème de la Crème

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    dont know your bike - but I would check wiring from starter button to relay and from relay to solenoid.(perhaps partly broken wire or bad connection,
    as you say solenoid changed and tested ok.
    ps
    You can still get a connection through a partly broken or rusted wire or bad connection but as soon as it takes a load upon it - it fails.
     
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  3. Banksy

    Banksy New Member

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    Thanks Tez, I'll take a look, much appreciated!!
     
  4. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    You might find this useful
     
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  5. Banksy

    Banksy New Member

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    Thanks Crispey, I'll take a look
     
  6. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Sorry linked the wrong thread, will try and find the right one
     
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  8. Victor

    Victor Active Member

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    I had a similar issue on my 2010 Sprint, just a faint click from the starter relay. It was the relay that was faulty. In the two years I had it, it was replaced twice under warranty. When it won't start try tapping it gently as you hold in the start button, that worked for me until it was replaced. You can open up the relay by prizing off the cover. The contacts can the be cleaned with 1200 wet and dry and contact cleaner.

    Mark
     
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  9. Banksy

    Banksy New Member

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    Thanks Victor, I tried all of the relays and no joy - dropped it at Bike Tec in Tamworth now
     
  10. Banksy

    Banksy New Member

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    Just some feedback as you were kind enough to offer some pointers, Bike-Tec at Tamworth found the problem was a broken wire and a couple that looked close to going, where the wiring goes around the headstock. I had read on another site somewhere that this is a common fault on triumphs? All sorted now, thanks again everyone
     
  11. TEZ 217

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    Spot on Banksy its good when members get back to the forum with an outcome of previous problems :cool::cool::cool:
    That's a lesson for Wayne, we had to beg him for an update ;);)
     
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  12. Victor

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    Glad you managed to get it sorted without to much hassle.
     
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  13. Simon Turner

    Simon Turner New Member

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    Re: 1050 triple starting trouble.
    I just returned from Assen on speed-triple 1050R and upon arrival at Le Shuttle the bike failed to churn/start properly after check-in. Checked battery terminals were well connected, and took a jump start from staff on site to get going, but the bike wouldn't self start. After 30 minutes cool-down however everything back to normal. This is the THIRD triple 1050 I have known to have this sort of starter trouble, two of mine and one my brother's. (the others were both STSprints). It seems long runs and hot engines deter the starter's willingness. Any other similar experiences out there? we guessed that possibly the starter demands too much charge from the battery when very hot ? should I replace battery and starter motor to avoid potential future problems ? Or just wait for cool-down and accept the problem ?
     
  14. Sprinter

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    Hi if I was you I would start a thread, youll get more views and possible answers this thread is almost done and so some wont check back in.
    If you can , take battery voltages when running and when off also did it prime the fuel pump, make any noise atall the more detail the more these guys can help.
     
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  16. Simon Turner

    Simon Turner New Member

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    Thanks. I will try to do so but new to the forum, feeling my way. More concerned right now about how to delete the pirate toolbar that unavoidably invaded me when signing up!
     
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    First I have heard of toolbar issues!
     
  18. Wasp

    Wasp Well-Known Member

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    Glad you are sorted banksy...less time fettling the bike leaves more time for graffiti art. ;)

    Welcome to the forum.

    Atb

    Bob
     
  19. Banksy

    Banksy New Member

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  20. Banksy

    Banksy New Member

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    Hi all, another update on starting problems with my 2009 Soeed Triple - 18 months after the repair to the wiring around the headstock I had the same symptoms. After head scratching I was put in touch with an expert on triumphs and he located a problem with the ignition loom connector under the tank and air box. There was a burnt out connector in the block, which has now been bypassed and all is well again !! I would upload pics but not sure how to do it !!
     
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