2002 Rear Hub, Drop Link And Now Swing Arm Service

Discussion in 'Speed Triple' started by DanielB, Dec 18, 2021.

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  1. SamTheExplorer

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    It's a fair point but I'm of the long experienced opinion that I can't afford to balls it up (again!) and increase the cost of paying a man that can to do it... Its nice to have some shiny hardly used tools... I'm going to stick to riding and cleaning it only as I'm relatively confident I can cope with and enjoy that...

    In absence of other guesses... Had you already removed the spindle? Or will it come out from the other side? Those are all I can naively come up with.

    I look forward to hearing the results and reading your continued successes! Be proud!
     
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  2. SamTheExplorer

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    Ahhh. It's the angle of (swingarm) dangle! I think you might win!...
     
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  3. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    Correct! @Smilinjack

    You win a donut

    It hadn't occured to me that the bloody swingarm would actually move!! FFS...what a dufus ...

    It's just hanging down...and, well...y'know, just, like swingin'... :rolleyes:

    By the time I'd put the radiator and fairing all back on, and then flagellated myself for being such a tit...I was cold...so have come back in...but reinvigorated for tomorrow.

    I'm gonna wind that sucker out!!

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  4. Smilinjack

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    Feckin 'ell Daniel, bacon butty, now a donut. When I finally meet you it'll be a breakfast fit for a king!! :laughing:
     
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  5. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    Yeah...I know @Smilinjack ...it's certainly a debt worth you having!

    :cool:
     
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  6. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    #86 DanielB, Jan 21, 2022
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    So...I'm leaning pretty hard on an 18" breaker bar...and that pin isn't shifting...

    Erm...any suggestions? Or lean harder? Nay more and I'm gonna strip the bat thread I think....

    I'm basically winding the bar into the pin more and more (as it were) and it's getting tighter and tighter... I'm expecting it to start pulling out the pin...but it hasn't so far...

    I'm looking for a blow torch...

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  7. Col_C

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    I think you're tightening the wrong nut :).
    The 2 on the end are only to screw the rod into the pin, you then need a 3rd nut that bears on your sleeve and pulls the stud and pin away from the singarm.
     
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  8. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    erm...I'm confused....

    where does this 3rd nut go?

    can you draw a diagram? :worried:
     
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  9. Iron

    Iron First Class Member

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    Sorry to butt in, you can tell me to butt back out again 'cause these new fangled bikes 'aint my thing but just trying to help.

    Daniel, you've put your sleeve over your screwed in long threaded stud. I see you've protected your alloy with a couple of lollipop sticks (good job). Then you've put on a washer.
    Have you then put the two nuts back on? These act locked together to thread the stud into the spindle. If you've left the two nuts on all you are doing is tightening the threaded stud into the spindle.

    Take the outside nut off. Then when you tighten the remaining nut it will thread down the stud onto the tube effectively pushing on the tube and pull out the spindle.
     
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  10. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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  11. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    Well butted @Iron...it's a commin' !!

    Thank you!!

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  12. Smilinjack

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    This cries out for a Youtube live stream and phone in, so we could fix it by committee :grinning:
     
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  13. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    Well butted @Iron...it's a commin' !!

    Thank you!!
    I'd be well up for that! But you'll more likely think it's some sort of comedy sketch!

    I t is finally...finally - now I understand how the jack works - starting to slowly slowly come out. You can see from the last photo that it is really corroded in to the blind end of the swing arm.

    I *think* that I am now limited as I can't get the freeing pin to fit inside my sleeve...as the tolerance is too tight, and all I am now doing is forcing the washer on my sleeve down in to it! So...another £8.58 later and I have a decent size [sacrificial] 3/4" drive socket Priming it's way here as we speak!

    I will, of course keep you posted...you must all be on tenterhooks!
     
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  14. Col_C

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    Daniel, yes what he said ^^^ :laughing: (you're welcome Iron :))
    Stage1 - the studding needs to be screwed in to the spindle, but once you're at that stage the studding shouldn't be turned anymore.
    Stage2 - you have the sleeve over the spindle, you're going to be pulling the studding and thus the spindle through this.
    Stage3 - you have a washer and nut that is free to turn on the studding and tightened up to the end of the sleeve.
    Stage4 - you keep tightening that nut on the sleeve BUT the studding shouldn't be turning anymore.

    So if you have the 2 nuts at the end locked against each other at the end you hold those to stop the studding turning, a 3rd nut further down the studding is the one you tighten to draw out the spindle (& studding)

    Looking at your photo it looks like you haven't got space for the extra nut that is going to do the work of pulling out the spindle, so you need to shorten the sleeve a bit (or a longer studding).
     
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  15. Smilinjack

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    I'll take the socket off you if it's a suitable size. I'm regularly whipping off stuff like hub nuts and caliper mounts on our Passats, can never have too much muscle. I feel a bit bad TBH, I was in Faringdon the other day and wasn't man enough to give you a ring and see if you wanted another pair of eyes on the job. Felt a bit pushy. My bad......:confused:
     
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  16. Col_C

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    Sounds like you've understood quicker than I could put in words, keep going!
     
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  17. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    Nah, don't be daft or feel bad...I didn't have any bacon in anyway...

    :laughing:


    Everyone else...thank you for your ongoing support!

    ....to be continued....
     
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  18. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    Right...it's Saturday night...what better way to spend an hour or so...

    This evenings tools:


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    This evenings' set-up:

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    This is IT...if this doesn't work...I'm buying a moped...

    My goodness, 15 minutes of miniscule turning of a nut...and...and...is that...is that "daylight"!!?

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    By Jove...I THINK this is working...

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    My God! It is, it is!! I can "see it's head"!

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    c'mon fella...you can do it...heave!

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    That's it you stubborn b'stard...weep your oily rust tears...

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    Yes...I can see this is actually gonna work....

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    Finally, I get to see inside a roller bearing; is this looking all OK? :D

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    That's it you basta#d...start saying your good-byes!

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    to be continued...
     
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  19. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    #99 DanielB, Jan 23, 2022
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    ....continued...

    And it's free! One drop link!!

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    I've not seen a dirty hole like this for a while...

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    There you go; my nemesis! Respect to you...but I ain't doin' this again!

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    A sloppy and defeated hole if ever I saw one...

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    And finally...strip down complete!!

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    And how long did all this take...turning a nut on a fine threaded bar, half a nut face by half a nut face at a time...?

    About this long:

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    (An hour and a bloody half)!

    But, there ain't gonna be no re-match; strip down complete (except pulling those bearings...they look a little past their best...)

    So, thank you all for your sticking with it so far...

    Clean up, bearing removal, bearing refitting...and reassembly to go. What could possibly go wrong... :kissing_heart:

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  20. Iron

    Iron First Class Member

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    Super job that man. All down hill now, crack on.....:)
     
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