So. My 2024 ST1200 RR has a Pro-Race pipe fitted. It looks the mutt's nuts and sounds good, it's super light... but it's too loud for trackdays, even with the optional db killer fitted. That's a problem because I'm a trackday instructor... So I need to refit the standard pipe. The previous owner was good enough to keep all the original parts boxed up and safe, which is great. But. He's fitted a servo eliminator, obviously. And I can't find where it is. I have a package for a Healtech but the only thing I can find is a grey box about 5cm by 3 by 3 with a wire from the loom going onto it and looking like it's permanent. The box is screwed onto the bracket where the servo would normally be, which makes me think it's the ESE. If so then I'm stuffed unless I embark on some loom surgery, which I'd like to avoid. Or I lock the valve open and refit the original pipe without the servo, which seems a bit crap because I gain all the weight and don't get the bottom end boost. Though obviously I do gain a bike quiet enough to pass trackday noise tests. Why am I posting? Simple. First of all, where would you put the Healtech so I know where to look? Second, has anyone encountered that little grey box? And last, if I have to, how do I lock the valve open (if that's the right approach)? Cheers
You need to look at online videos on how to install the Healtech ESE. It seems to be located behind the rear brake fluid reservoir and should be a small black box with Healtech ESE marked on it.
Yeah, that's what I thought and it's what I did... but it's not there, which is what led me to asking here.
@TRIPLE X I take it is a new bike. If not someone may have already removed it. But if it were me i would have a chat with a helpful Triumph dealer.
Good point. For context: Bike is a '24 1200RR. I'm the second real owner (first was Fowlers as a demo) and the previous owner tried to get it to suit him before giving up and buying a BMW (result for me!) He removed the exhaust from the bean-can cat backwards and fitted a Pro-Race pipe and servo eliminator. He kept all the original parts and supplied them with the bike, which is nice. Trouble is, there's Healtech ESE packaging in with the original exhaust but no sign of the ESE on the bike. Obviously there is one somewhere as it's not throwing any errors, but I can't find it. It is going in for a service in a week or so, and I may well ask the dealer if they can spot it while they're rummaging around. I'd just rather find it myself so I'm not paying someone else for it... Cheers
@Junglie25 Most good dealers will know about it and would i assume let you know without any charge. Good for them as it keeps your business.
I think the valve in the original exhaust is spring loaded in the open position until activated. So you could just leave the Healtech ESE instu (wherever it is) & put the original exhaust back on. The ESE will stop the MIL light from illuminating because the actuator has been disconnected and removed.
That's handy! Looking at the original, the valve is about halfway open, but as the servo is currently attached to the exhaust it could be holding it in that position. I'll investigate further...
OK, I found the ESE - turns out that grey box actually slides open - it's beautifully made and the gap is hardly visible - and the Healtech is inside it. I'm going to try swapping back to standard tomorrow and will update. Interesting thing though - had it serviced yesterday and the tech at Rosner's said it was the nicest 1200 he's ridden, and suggested i should leave it alone... Hoping that if the previous owner has had it mapped then it'll still work with the stock can... Otherwise it's back to the drawing board...
Standard pipe back on, servo refitted. Getting the servo back in is an utter pig of a job, It's easy enough apart from the screws which hold the cover to the subframe, which requires fingers like ET, ir better yet Magneto's powers of moving screws without actually being able to touch them at all... Anyway. It's on. And no Check Engine Light. Woohoo! Got a 500 mile round trip on Friday night so I'll let you know if it's horrible after that.
Managed to get a hundred mile shakedown last night. It's... quiet. Quieter than I expected. But power delivery is unchanged and it does make a nice grown when pressing on. Purely in the name of science I did manage to, um, stretch its legs a bit on a piece of local derestricted autobahn near Sieben Eichen and can confirm that it still goes like stink. The other bit of good news is that the stock pipe isn't too bulky and ugly, because the rest of the bike loos so great that would be a real shame. Eventually I may throw a GR Moto pipe at it because that has a baffle and because they're stupidly cheap. But for now I'm happy. Just need to decide whether to hang onto the beautiful Pro-Race pipe now or move it on.
Why not make a number of Pro Race suitable baffles and run them through a noise meter? I have a Kove 450 rally with a HP Corse pipe and decat. The dealer said they weren't too loud when I commented, but two separate bikes behind me on different days said otherwise and stated, when you go for it I simply can't hear anything
Here @Junglie25 is the baffle to start with and a very acceptable result after. It does take a bit of trial and error but is quite easily achievable with a few tools/skills and effort.
It had crossed my mind, I must admit. And seeing how you've done it... yeah, I could look at that down the line.Thanks for the really useful picture. Your mates' description reminds me of following a mate on an Aprilia MIlle with what appeared to be open pipes. It wasn't the fact that it was loud so much as the way you could feel the noise pulses moving your organs around...
Send me your bits with ideas and I'm pretty sure we can come up with a few solutions Pm me for more conversation.
Here you go @Junglie25 Stainless steel punched sheet 0.71mm thick (22 swg in old money). Easy to work with and form, not too heavy. 3mm diameter holes.
