Problems. Suspension Settings, Oil Vapour On Sump, Oil Light.

Hi All,

3 problems i'm afraid.

Question One.

Its a 09 speedy 1050 with 10,000 miles on it.

Th Suspension settings are difficult to get right. If you go buy th book its 2 turns out on th front its soft. But mine soon go from soft to hard in a smallest of turns. Also comp is on th right and Tens on th left when they should be th other way around. Does that make a difference?? They do appear to comp and tens th same were they are. Iv taken oil out as it was over filled and hydrolocking.!!! Now i can use all th suspension that i payed for... If it allows me.

So Im very close to having them stripped and cleaned, re sprung with progressive springs?? and put back together th right way around with correct oilings.. As im getting a bit fed up of carrying a screw driver around every time th weather changes temperature. I kid you not on a cold day they do stiffen up to race standards, that dosnt suit my B road blat..

Question 2.

Oil light comes on when it feels like when th engine is off. New sender unit or clocks problem??

Question 3.

Oil vapor for all th world seams to be coming from a hole bung in th sump. As anyone had a similar problem?? Also th near by breathers are dry, so it carn't be them? Oils filter, sump plug all oil tight. See fotoes.



Note dry all around filter seal.



Breathers oil free..



Cheers Phil

 

Hi Bolosun.

1, Yes its looking like a full pro rebuild. As anyone used progressive springs on there's??

2, When if it does come on it flickers too some times, that sort of thing. Iv taken th connector off th sender and messed with it but that makes no difference. I will look into steering head wires but at 10,000 miles they should be ok and when i move th steering it makes no difference to th flickering on or off.....

3, Iv cleaned it when filter is off, replaced with new and then ridden it 10 miles and there is no sign from were it comes from. A right mistery foreshore this one.. Its like some one as given it a misting of oil from underneath. Nothing is coming from above.

 

Hi Bolosun.

1, Yes its looking like a full pro rebuild. As anyone used progressive springs on there's??

2, When if it does come on it flickers too some times, that sort of thing. Iv taken th connector off th sender and messed with it but that makes no difference. I will look into steering head wires but at 10,000 miles they should be ok and when i move th steering it makes no difference to th flickering on or off.....

3, Iv cleaned it every where when th filter was off, replaced with new and then ridden it 10 miles and there is no sign from were it comes from. A right mistery foreshore this one.. Its just like some one as given it a misting of oil from underneath. Nothing is coming from above. Oil level never drops. Like i say its not a leak more of a misting.

 

Yes its looking like a trip to th professionals. Iv now screwed th comp all th way out 2 1/2 turns in this case and it only feels slightly less stabby.

 

Suss update.

Went for a ride out on Wednesday and turned th blue nuts (Spring tension) out one turn and it revealed a new grove adjustment on both side (which was nice) and it now gives 1 1/2 inch of sag.

What started all this suspension stuff off was having a go on my son's 955i. Is has had new springs and set up very well. Its lovely and compliant. No or very little stabbing in th bars and feels perfect in th bumpy bends. I tracks beautifully. Mind he does av new Michelin race 5's on, (I think they are called that). When i first got on it, it just fell into th corners and it surprised me and i had to lift it up and in again, till i got used to it. My Bridgestone's Battle axe BT 016 and other variants iv used for years on all my other previous bikes arnt as good and i will change to Mitch next time.

Anyway.... I also turned back th rear rebound half a turn as well and now its gone in th car world from Mini Cooper S hard to Escort RS 2000. What i really want is Rover 75 with low profile tyres and Mc Pherson struts. Th word is not soft, but compliant and taught when needed...

On th ride out i saw these too.

Nice 750. I wont one.



Wankle...!!!!



TURBO>!!!!!



This is in th raffle... I hope we win it... ;-)

 

Thank you for this Robbi.

It as confirmed a few things for me.

Suspension.

I was told buy a suspension guy it dosnt make any odds which way around th settings are. And yes contamination could well be a issue as there isnt a smooth transition from one setting to th other. So a strip and clean should do it. With th genuine low mileage (and it is, iv got all th mots) i would av thought wear was not top of th list but possible indeed. Iv had progressive springs in some Maxton shocks many years ago and they did do what i wanted it to achieve... So if it suits th Triumph ill go for that... ??

Sender.

I too think its th sender as iv messed with connections and it looks like it is. One of th reasons also is.... I never confessed but after having th bike for a month or so i did notice th sump was over filled by 1 and 1/4 ltrs of oil....!!!! Th guy who sold it me seamed a real good dealer and prided him self so much on his bikes that he gave a guarantee. Sadly though with th over filed forks/sump/wiring under seat failed to th relays and a mullered gear selector adjuster soon made me relies that things arnt what they always seam... Shame cuz th bike looked great. Oh and here is th oil filter that he had just changed too... (WHAT A GREAT BIG GIT)





I Really like th bike so its not th end of th world so ill spend on it this time.. But i do think i should change th good review i gave him when i first bought it.

Now regarding th PVC valve. On cars i usually fit a long rubber choob over th dip stick tube and blow. If it feels free and gurgles at th PVC filter all is well. How do you test it on th speedy??

KR Phil

 

Update,

Its going in this week for th forks strip & clean. Adjusters moved to th right legs. New air filter and possible oil pressure sender unit.

Th guy at th work shop says they av progressive springs fitted to a 09 1050 speedy as new. Th internet says they don't, and th Triumph web site drawings show progressives. So does any one know for definite if they are factory fitted or not. Because if not ill have them fitted to....???

Th guy also said there is no PCV valve actually fitted but there is one called air induction compensating valve which in my opinion is and does th same job.

My sons Michelin race 5's are absolutely brilliant in my opinion so i might go mad and have them done to....

 

Ok... Its back.

Here is watts happened.

Checked forks to see if they do have progressive springs as standard and i can confirm that they do.
Strip clean fork internals.
New fork oil (10W) and seals.
Increase air gap to 120mm
More preload.
Swop cartridges to correct sides and adjust correctly to my spec. (Its good to talk ;-)
Fit new oil pressure switch and banjo.
Air filter checked and is as new so not replaced.

Fit front and rear + balance new Michelin road 6 tyres...

Took it for a test drive for 71 miles in Derbyshire peaks and as they say. Jobs a good un. It now falls in effortlessly and tracks a hell of a lot better on undulating curves (Cat and Fiddle.!!!!).. and less jigger pick action on my arthritis.

Some say you must go stiffer (And at th TT that is correct apart from bit between Kerrowmoar to Ramsey) when pushing on. But in th real world I beg to differ. On A/B roads its compliance you need not rigidity... For me that compliance is th neo varna we all need.

At th end of th day i guess its up to th individual on there set up. But this dark art of suspension is one thing im not completely at home with so going to th professional's for help is a step im glad i took. Its confirmed that things are now indeed exactly were they should be.

Ps. Them silica rich Michelins are th mutts. Oil light doesn't flicker any more, and iv now got a bike i want to ride ......

PPS. Th oil vaporing's saga still remains. Th sump might need a bit of Tig work. As any one done this to a sump??? Or should i go down th liquid metal route.... Mmmmm