Street Cup Handlebar Change

Discussion in 'Triumph Twin Power' started by Celticages, Oct 20, 2017.

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  1. Celticages

    Celticages Well-Known Member

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    Before and after

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  2. Celticages

    Celticages Well-Known Member

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  3. deanat78

    deanat78 New Member

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    @Celticages thank you so much for all your info and for consistently coming back to such an old thread, you've helped many people (I'm sure many have used this info and haven't said anything)

    Would you mind sharing what parts **exactly** you used? The stock Twin bar, and the stock risers? Did you have to get new cables, what else did the process involve?
     
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  4. deanat78

    deanat78 New Member

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    Did anybody attempt to either rotate the stock bars or reverse them? How did that go?
     
  5. Don the Don

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    Hi and welcome mate, introduce yourself on the Newbe page
     
  6. Celticages

    Celticages Well-Known Member

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    You thanked me for consistently coming back and I have failed to come back in a while to answer you question in a timely manner. I apologize. You probably have it sorted by now but would be happy to go over the exact process I took and the parts I purchased. I will check back in a few days. XD
     
  7. deanat78

    deanat78 New Member

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    I bought a twin handlebar and cable and got it all swapped. Cost a few hundreds of dollars, but I can now ride without constant back pain :)
     
  8. garethr

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    #68 garethr, Feb 17, 2021
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    Just thought I'd mention this...

    For many years, Meriden Triumphs had 1 inch handlebars. When they changed to 7/8 inch handlebars there must have been a big box of risers in the stores, because (on the T140, for example) they continued to use the 1 inch "P clamps" with spacers/shims to accommodate the 7/8 'bars.

    If you can't find any, try searching for Triumph P clamp spacers.

    There may be aftermarket options. I know it's possible to buy 1 1/8 inch to 7/8 inch spacers, because I've seen a Street Scrambler with the standard "fat bars" replaced with 7/8 inch Renthals. The owner said that the serrated spacers he used came from eBay/China.

    EDIT:
    While searching for something else, I found that www.barnettclutches.com have 1" to 7/8" spacers in their catalogue.

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  9. Geoff Butler

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    Hi all,

    Like many of you have been discussing on this thread for the last couple of years, I have decided that different bars on my 2017 Street Cup will make for a more comfortable ride.

    I took the plunge today and simply flipped the main centre “U” bar up the other way and the result is better than I expected! The bar end angles could be better but I intend to ride it for a while to see whether it is more comfortable for my back and arms on a long journey.

    Notable downsides are:
    1. The switch gear notches do not line up when the bar ends are rotated
    2. The brake and clutch cables restrict the handlebar positioning so I may need the longer ones
    Ultimately I think that Renthal Ultra Low bars will be the long term solution for me but this will be more expensive (for the bars, clamps and cables needed).
     
  10. OsteKuste

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    I just installed the British Customs handle bar clamps and spacers today. Kept the original bar, but with the spacers it added about 10mm height to the bar. Hopefully just enough that it will help take a little strain off my wrists.
     
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  11. Geoff Butler

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    Hi all,

    I have decided to go for Street Twin bars on my Street Cup. The standard ace bars flipped up the other way are a good height but a strange position that tucks your wrists in uncomfortably on a longer journey.

    I have posted a question about Renthals and wondered if anyone in this thread knows the closest Renthal bars to the standard Street Twin bars?

    Cheers

    Geoff

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  12. OsteKuste

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    Just a bit of advice, if you are looking for aftermarket bars look for one with an available clamp section of 1 inch. A lot of places list the Street Cup as being 7/8 but this is wrong. I originally ordered 7/8 clamps from British Customs and they would not fit my clubman bar. Swapped them for the 1 inch which fit perfectly. I am now running the original clubman bar with the British Customs clamps and a 10mm spacer. It’s just enough to give me a little relief. By the way, just to confuse everyone further the control section of the oem bar is 7/8 inch.
     
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  13. Geoff Butler

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    OMG o_O Thanks @OsteKuste

    I have already got some genuine Street Twin clamps so will definitely keep an eye on the sizing.
     
  14. Anne TSC

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    Hi,im writing my first post. I realise im responding to an old thread but id like to ask people who know what they're talking about bc they've done it. I want to raise the handlebars on my street cup ( i just bought immaculate 2017 street cup with 3000km only & i love everything but the bars bc they are too low)After reading lots of forums i think i will put street twin bars on. Ive read every word of the relative posts & it seems no one has answered the question 'how much higher do the street twin handlebars become whe installed on street cup? Can anyone tell me? I would be so grateful.
     
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  15. Geoff Butler

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    Hi Anne and welcome!

    Just in case you know someone with a Street Twin or you live close to a dealer, the bar change will make the riding position the same as a stock 2017 ST and it might be easier to just see one. I used Renthal 758 bars on mine but the original Triumph ST bars are a better choice because they have the switch gear notches but they are more expensive to buy new.

    I did the same conversion a while back, I am 6ft tall and it transformed the bike and allowed me to ride comfortably for longer distances. I also changed the seat for a standard ST one with a grab rail.

    Just to recap what you will need:
    1. ST bars
    2. Grip glue
    3. ST bar clamps because I believe the ST uses standard bars, where as the SC has fat bars
    4. ST clutch cable
    5. A replacement brake reservoir bracket (or just bend the brake reservoir bracket so it sits level)
    6. Bars ends (I used Oxford)
    Good luck! :)

    Cheers

    Geoff

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  16. Anne TSC

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    Hi Geoff, i was thrilled to get your reply. Your bike looks great. What youve done looks really nice & inspiring. I suppose i didnt tell the full story because its a shitty one, but i took the bike to a few bike shops asking for handlebar to be 2 & half inches higher ( new or mine) They said 'cant be done, or i cant help you or sell the bike'. To me this is absurd. I took it to another mechanic who i was advised did custom jobs,he said no problem ill give u a quote & i left the bike while i waited for the quote & 2 days later got a call 'come pick up yr bike it finished' i said 'im waiting for the quote ' Anyway he dropped the price by 20% & assured me I'll love it & i rode home & i hate it. It feels wrong,i cant explain it. He put royal Enfield bars that raised it 9 or 10 inches. Im so stupid for paying him i know. Im gutted. I just bought the bike & it really was beautiful & its been bastardised. I dont want to ride it or even talk about it. But i do now have longer clutch cable (it was rerouted) & i assume everything i need for higher bars is done (perhaps overdone) Anyway i have told him i hate it & i was told to bring it down. Ive not decided if its best to cut my losses & not go back or fight for it. Its been 2 weeks since i picked it up but xmas in that time plus its rained last 2 days. Geoff could you tell me how much difference the ST bars were compared to SC bars? If u still have the SC bars can u hold them in position & tell me the difference (in inches) between where the end of the grip is on SC & end of grip ST. Im a bit concerned i might buy the ST handlebars & they might be wrong for me. I have ridden a ST & i recall they seemed fine but i dont know if that means they'll be right for me on SC. If its not possible i get it.
    Thanks so much for your advice about switching the handlebars, my son & i may do it
     
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  17. beerkat

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    Other than the speedo and tacho, and maybe the end cans, I'd say that looks pretty much like a Street Twin. No offence intended but I'm curious as to why someone would buy a Street Cup and more-or-less change it into a Street Twin.
     
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  18. Geoff Butler

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    It's a fair question @beerkat and the quick answer is because of my age. ;)

    Up until buying the Street Cup new in 2017 I thought I only wanted bikes with dropped handlebars because it kept my back straight. However, with age, I now find a more upright position more comfortable.

    As an aside, I also liked the SC paint job. :cool:
     
  19. beerkat

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    That makes sense. I find the Street Twin riding position very comfortable. In 2020 it took me down to Lands End, then back up to John O'Groats, over 7 days, without any back or bum problems. However I also have 2 Honda sports bikes, an RVF400 NC35 and CBR400 NC29, both of which have clip-ons, and I've not yet reached the point at which they've become uncomfortable. Maybe one day but I'll keep riding them while I can.

    As far as paint schemes go, I agree that Triumph have certainly lacked imagination when it comes to ST colours. Mine's a first generation model and I went for the sparkly black. The sparkly bit was an extra £175 I think, but they threw that in with the deal. I came across a brand new, unused ST tank, still boxed, with a tiny dent caused during stock moving. I got it for £140. It's now sitting in my garage waiting for a custom paint job when inspiration strikes.
     
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  20. Geoff Butler

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    Sadly, I no longer own the SC and I have regretted selling the bike ever since! :(

    Rest assured that the ST and SC are pretty much the same bike though, so if you liked the ST handlebar height it will be the same on your SC.

    Sorry to hear about your unwanted mods and between us all on here I am sure we can guide you along the way. :)
     
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