Are Bare-end Weights Required?

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  1. underdoug

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    personally, yes.
    I'd not leave them off but maybe you won't notice any issues?
     
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    I would have them on for the sake of your arms. They are there to help with vibration and ease turning.

    if the OEM bar end doesn't fit, might want to look into shimming them out with washer or machine a stub spacer to the bar ends will fit.
     
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    The diameter is too large to fit in the heated grip tube. The 2013 T100 bar ends are only 10g which makes me wonder if they are decorative. I could probably find 10g of something to stick in the handlebar end on the bolt that goes into the bar-end. it just has to fit in the grip.

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    I've never had a bike with end weights that actually needed them. Back when bikes were real shakers, they weren't used. I removed them from all my bikes that had them and couldn't feel any difference.
     
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    Personally, I wouldn’t put any weights on my bare end.
     
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    Hi the bar end mirrors are not decorative, they help prevent mirror and minor vibration, they also assist slow manoeuvre's, Oxford grips are designed to allow trimming on the ends that allow the fitment of the OEM bar end weights, and prevent the throttle sticking between the heated grip and bar end weight. Oxford do many designs of heated grips that cater for Sports Bikes, Cruisers, Adventure bikes etc, choosing the correct type for your machine is essential.
     
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    I had stock mirrors that vibrated with end weights and it made no difference with them off. With smaller, lighter mirrors and no weights, the problem was solved. I doubt they do any good for slow maneuvers because they're only a tiny percentage of the entire rotating mass. If anything, they would add more pendulum effect at low speeds which I don't want. Even worse if the bike gets into a wobble.
     
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    Agreed, but don't knock it until you've tried it....................
     
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    Just sayin, old Bikes never needed bar end weights, even lumpy vibrating big Brit twins.
    I guess they had bare end weights, lol.
     
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    They probably had enough weight already in those old steel handlebars :neutral:
     
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    They didn't have the steep steering head angles we have on modern bikes and front and rear wheels were almost always the same sizes , my 1942 BSA M20 had 20" wheel's if I remember correctly. And something like 30° no where near the 22°/24° on more modern machinery with 17" wheel ??!!
     
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    All I would say is that Triumph and many other manufacturers spend vast amounts of money on research and development, if manufacturers deemed bar end weights made no difference they would save a large amount of money over the production run of thousands of machines. People can e mail Triumph Technical Department direct and ask that very question if in doubt. Hope this helps from an ageing Rocker.
     
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    It was said in jest.
     
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    Do these bikes actually have bar end 'weights'? My Bonneville Speedmaster has 'bar end finishers' which are thin flimsy aluminium affairs, presumably to make the bar ends look nice. The same part number is used on Speed Triple, Street Triple, T120 and T100 (the bike @underdoug was asking about).
     
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    Well they might be decorative as they are only 10g.
     
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    Trimming the oxford grips allowed me to use the original bare-end weight. Thanks!
     
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    Really i think they do no more than help the vibes and stop you hitting the bar on other bits when parking up. Really i think if your bike is smooth and doesn't vibrate then you don't need them.
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    In Modern times the biggest cause of Handlebar vibration is either front wheel balancing/suspension or the engine/frame setup.

    Front wheels are much bigger ( vast amounts of rubber) in comparison to bike's from the '70's , if this isn't sprung , dampened, or balanced right your bars will 'shake'

    Engine's are now 'stressed' part's of the bikes frame and frame's are more solid/rigid than anything from the '70's . If the engine isn't harmoniously balanced properly from the factory , there will be engine Vibe's strongly felt in the bars at certain RPM's.

    I had a Laverda RGS1000 that would have suffered badly with the second above ! They sorted it by putting "6" 2" inch torsional rubber engine mountings in ! Two at the front and four behind the gearbox.
    I took them out (Weight saving) and had to put Sand in the bars to stop the tingles , I'd get off the bike after a longish 2 - 3 hr ride and my hands felt like I was holding the mower doing the front lawn still :dizzy::dizzy::p;):no_mouth::no_mouth:
     
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