Trophy Wiring Up The Solenoid

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  1. tedred57

    tedred57 New Member

    Aug 23, 2015
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    Evening all..has anyone got a photo of the wiring up of the solenoid/starter relay on a Triumph trophy 900 1998 model...the previous owner has pretty much wired it all up with sticky back plastic,insulation tape and super glue...all the wiring under the tank and from the battery and solenoid is a mess and pretty much stretched to the limit and has no give in it...Just purchased a new solenoid and I'm assuming the fuse carrier should be taken off the old one and pushed onto the new one which I've done...the letters M and B are next to each terminal ...I have no clue of their importance...can some one shed some light on that for me please...the electrics are a mess and I'm running out of patience and fed up of throwing money at my bike and getting nowhere...currently not running and not even getting a click out of the starter relay as I'm unsure of the wiring as its such a disaster...Help!!!!
     
  2. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

    Sep 29, 2016
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    Similar problem raised by another forum member this week.
    The recommended solution was to fit a new wiring harness.
    Certainly worth considering if the wiring is as bad as you say.
     
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  3. tedred57

    tedred57 New Member

    Aug 23, 2015
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    Its a bloody mess mate...as I said in my post I'm sick of throwing money at the vehicle...im reasonably ok at most maintenance on the bike but stop short at electrical problems which seem to be the crux of the problems with the bike...im really not prepared to pay out any more dosh for the local motorbike dealers to fit a new wiring harness which in truth they really don't want to do
     
  4. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    If you are planning on keeping the bike it would definitely be worth doing.
    It is not too difficult a job to do yourself if you go about it in a logical manner and mark everything up prior to removal.
    It's your call mate, but it sounds like you are going to,be chasing your tail for ever more with stretched and glued wiring.
    Even if you plan to sell, you risk the chance of a dissatisfied buyer unless you are dead honest with them.
     
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  5. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Whats the history? What are you trying to do? Whats the problem? Whats the capital of Portugal? All this and more, please,on your next instalment.

    Did it ever start with you? When was it last running? Do you get lights or horn or anything instruments?
     
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  6. tedred57

    tedred57 New Member

    Aug 23, 2015
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    Everything works on it..indicators,horn,lights etc...replaced the starter relay and that's when I came across the wiring problems...brand new Solenoid and because all the wiring and the connectors are so worn I'm struggling to get it firing over...last had it running last Monday.. that's when the starter relay failed
     
  7. Petrol

    Petrol Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2016
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    There used to be a time that I found electrics intimidating. M for motor B for battery. ( the big wires ) Apply a 12 volt power to the little teminals and it should make a loud click Do you have a haynes manual with colour wiring diagrams. Do you have a multi meter? What is the exact model. First numbers of the vin. Then I may be able to help.

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  8. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    Bloody hell Petrol!
    Those electrics look pretty intimidating to me, what's that yellow thing with the red and black leads coming from it, I can't find one anywhere on my Bonnie ?
     
  9. tedred57

    tedred57 New Member

    Aug 23, 2015
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  10. Grumpyintheshed

    Jun 9, 2017
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    The solenoid in front of the battery?
    Just popped out and took these if its any help.
    Looking down as you sit on the bike red/white to left spade, black/ white to right. Battery +ve big red cable to left bolt on conn, and other side off to starter motor (I guess, didn't fancy pulling all the panels off :) )

    I would guess that the red/white comes from the starter button via a fuse which when pressed sends 12v to solenoid, the other side being earth. This in turn activates the solenoid 'joining' the two big wires together, connecting the battery to the starter motor.

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  11. tedred57

    tedred57 New Member

    Aug 23, 2015
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    Cheers mate...that's just what I needed...thanks very much...shall do that now
     
  12. Petrol

    Petrol Well-Known Member

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    Its a garmin transformer. Turns 12 volts into 5.2 volts at 2.1 amps. Bacically same as a usb outlet on a desktop p.c.. I have wired it with a battery charger plug that sits behind a side panel. That way its not permanantly live and if I wish I can unplug it so as my garmin turns off.
     
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