Why do people want quickshifters? From a mechanical point of view it seems a recipe for disaster....rapid clutchless changes at high revs puts colossal stress on the gearbox and then people moan when something breaks. Ok for track days perhaps but for a road bike? Sound like madness to me. What's the point of them?
Yeah not for me But if we were all the same it’d be pretty boring Only ever ridden one bike with a quick shifter a Fireblade special which only did it on the up shift It just felt alien to me
I have pretty much perfected the clutchless upshifts on my 2010 Speed Triple I load the gear lever with pressure (using my foot obviously), then as I shut the throttle to no-load the gear changes without any further pressure and I open the throttle again, all in an instant. Lovely and smooth, proper gear engagement every time and a sense of advanced gear change achievement. It sounds good too ♫♫ Clutchless down shifting I am working on, it's a bit clunky at the moment
Apparently they are not bad for the gearbox as it ensures no throttle at change. High throttle and revs with or without quick shifter is going to be higher wear on either system. Still don't want it, plus it'd be odd on a Street Twin!
I disagree, there are plenty of articles to be found stating that q/s wear gearboxes, a race/track bike gearbox will not be expected to cover as many trouble free miles without maintenance as a road bike. And it's not as simple as just "no throttle", engine speed should be matched to road speed for a given gear, so there's plenty of scope to get it wrong whether q/s or manual. To answer the OP's first question I'm not sure "people" actually want a q/s, it's just the answer the marketing people get when they ask a focus group they've just wined/dined/massaged ego's. I rode a S1000XR with q/s for a week in the Alps, nice bike - but the q/s didn't add anything to the experience. ........and don't even get me started on "engine/rider modes"
As you say...each to their own, but even on my standard bike I have not had problems getting away from traffic lights or multiple overtakes. How much time does the quickshifter actually save? A couple of seconds perhaps?
I've only ever ridden one bike fitted with a quick shifter, a Tiger 1200 on a demo ride. As I usually make clutchless up shifts when accelerating hard I found I never really used it and when I made a conscious effort to bother I didn't find it much quicker to be honest.
You have to make allowances.... he's riding a ditchpump for God's sake! (I understand they've improved of late but when I tried a GS a few years back the gearbox was definately suited to a MF) Massey Ferguson Cornering abs is the only tech I lust after - for the unexpected. Everything else I want and expect to be in control of - that is the challenge of riding - and source of satisfaction for me. As you say everyone to their own.
Have to agree about the hill hold it’s bloody brilliant Got stuck at some temporary traffic lights on the way back from Scotlandshire the other week and they were on an uphill bank Just gave the front brake an extra squeeze and it was like putting a handbrake on
Have to agree, I've had a couple BM's and the gearboxes were terrible . l had both of them apart to replace broken springs and failed bearings etc. Pity because the engines were fantastic. The boxes are not actually made by BMW , l think are subcontracted to a company called ZWN or something like that. As you say, the new ones are supposed to be better now.
I thought about ticking the box when ordering my RS, but the had the exact same conversation with myself... so decided not to order it. Sure, it’s fun to keep full throttle when pulling another traffic light sprint with your mates, but I decided I’d rather use the cash for fuel. Best damn decision I made in a fecking long time..
I grew up riding Honda 50s etc up the wood which I loved doing but I used to dream of a bike with a clutch,I still love riding a bike with a clutch,I just don’t get this clutchless gear changing, I’ve had two bikes with a quick shifter Daytona 675 and my street triple RS and I rarely use the quick shifter.
NO !! 2 years on a Multistrada has developed a healthy aversion to unnecessary electronics. ABS - yes, traction control I don't need. Having ridden with panniers, topbox and the wife on back I can see the attraction of hill hold in certain situations..... (especially if you're a short-ass on a GS ) Agree cruise control is useful if blasting some boring miles on the Payage, but I always try to avoid them anyway. .......BUT we're here.....on the Speed Triple section of the forum - so needs neither. My 2015 94R is a PURE motorcycle IMHO. (before Triumph started loading it with electronics - and preventing home maintenance to a significant degree)
It's the same as having a flappy paddle gear change in a car, to make people think they are racing drivers, and give the impression your a better driver/rider than you are. For most of us, it pointless........ but everyone to there own I guess.
