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The Brexit Thread

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Dozers Dad, Nov 15, 2018.

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  1. figwold

    figwold Senior Member

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    Oh don’t get me wrong, I agree that it’s a bit of nonsense. But if I was an MP I would not vote for a deal which could split the UK, which it does.

    So be angry with May et al for thinking it acceptable, but don’t blame MPs for saying that it isn’t.
     
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  2. Callumity

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    They should certainly vote it down but be honest about their rationale AND respect the referendum with a constructive approach to meeting its remit.
    ‘You got it wrong, it is all too difficult/disastrous we must stay in’ does not cut it. And spare me Hammond and BoE projections derived from ludicrously pessimistic assumptions about how badly we will do outside. One is 10% of the EU’s very own growth estimate for us!
     
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  3. Callumity

    Callumity Noble Member

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    Anyway......now looks like she is moving the goalposts.....watch this space.....
     
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  4. Wessa

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    Pretty much what I said in my previous post (#115)........
     
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  5. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member
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    That's better!
    The debate merry-go-round was getting more boring than the weather. :laughing:
     
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  6. David Cooper

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  7. Yorkshireman

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  8. Gazzatriumph

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    #228 Gazzatriumph, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:38 PM
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    Must of pressed wrong one by mistake, just goes to show how thick I am and voting leave as well.
    In my defence it was done on my phone rather than the laptop, still not sure how though. I did find your post funny and have changed it.
     
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  9. crispey

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    BMWs are the best bikes in the world! Just in case.
     
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  10. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member
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    Get out of here!
    What d'ya think this is............a bike forum?
     
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  11. Gazzatriumph

    Gazzatriumph Active Member

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    Can we get back to abusing remainers please ;)
     
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  12. Dozers Dad

    Dozers Dad Bushmills Chief Quality Controller
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    FFS Crispey!
    I created this thread so all the Brexit bollox wouldn't spill over into talk of motorcycles!

    Oh, hang on!... BMW you say? Yeah sorry, that has f#ck all to do with proper motorcycles!
    Carry on Sir :cool: :p
     
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  13. Yorkshireman

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    Cake and tits anyone?
     
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  14. Col_C

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    #234 Col_C, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:36 PM
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    Here you go < link

    Edit -
    So unfortunately we'll still get B#W's even if we get a "No Deal" :rolleyes:
     
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  15. littleade

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    I think you should book an appointment to review your medication...…..
     
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  16. half ton

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    ooooh....do you think the government etc. were maybe,just maybe.....fibbing to us all about all the shit that was going to happen.......naah they wouldn't do that would they.
     
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  17. Callumity

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    As DD might say, “Polemics not economics!”
     
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  18. figwold

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    #238 figwold, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:23 AM
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    The simple answer is that no-one can predict the future with any degree of precision. If we could we would all be millionaires.

    That said, we can make some high level projections:

    1 Leaving (whether deal or no-deal) will cause some disruption and negative impacts as multi-nationals relying on the UK’s access to the EU Single Market review, delay, potentially cancel, and maybe even reverse investment decisions.

    2 In extremism we may find plant closures as (for example) motor manufacturers decide to shut UK plants in favour of EU ones, probably in Eastern Europe.

    3 We can expect prices for products imported from the EU to increase to cover the costs of tariffs and delays at the ports

    4 Some goods, imported from outside the EU, may become cheaper as EU tariffs are removed. This is likely to be noticeable for food. However UK farmers will cry “foul” as this will make it harder for them to compete.

    5 We will have increased opportunities to trade with the rest of the world, but trade deals take many years to negotiate so any benefits will be slow and gradual to impact.

    6 Our Financial Services industry may lose some business from the EU, impacting jobs

    7 The pound is likely to remain weak in the short term as, whatever we may think, the markets clearly do not think Brexit is good economically. Imports and foreign purchases such as holidays will continue to be more expensive.

    8 The government may try to stimulate the economy by cutting taxes, but public debt is already very high by historic and international standards.

    9 In the long run this will either prove to be good or bad, but we won’t be sure and in any event we will be dead :)
     
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  19. dilligaf

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    :confused:....MEH..... I started off with nothing :eek: and I still got most of it left :p
     
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  20. John Scotcher

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    Brexit has already had a negative impact as the pound currency has fallen in value about 15% against the Euro and the US dollar since the referendum. This makes imports from the EU more expensive (where most motorcycle spare parts originate - most Japanese companies have their European central parts warehouses in the EU but not in the UK). Japan has just sorted a trade deal with the EU which will make motorcycles manufactured in Japan about 8% cheaper in the EU. Obviously the UK will not receive those benefits without a trade deal. If you were a country outside Europe, who would you prefer to have a trade deal with - the UK with about 65 million people or the EU with hundreds of millions of people? Jacob Rees Mogg has said that it may take up to 50 years for the UK to get any benefits from leaving the EU but, that doesn't affect him as he has transferred some of his financial interests into the EU (Dublin).
     
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