The 2020 Speed Triple 1160 - Yes Or No?

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  1. typeo123

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  2. SteveRS

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    It’s too bad the exhaust can is so big and ugly. Yes it’s not as big as some bikes have, but none the less it’s not an Arrow can now is it. For me it would be another added expenses to get ride of that eye sore. But I think spending more money is something we would have to get used to with the new bike, as it requires high octane fuel now and has a lower 6th gear as to consume more fuel too. Don’t get me wrong I think it will be a brilliant bike, but I wouldn’t want to trade in my 2019 for it. Ok, maybe if it has a working quickshifter ;).
     
  3. Zaico

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    44Teeth test:
     
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  4. Zaico

    Zaico Member

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    Aaand VisorDown too:
     
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  5. xorbe

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    Hey the YT video showed 3rd gear 7K 79 mph => so then 6th gear possibly tops at ~175 mph, so then sane freeway rpms for 6th. Didn't match up with the Owner's Manual data it seems. 2nd vs 3rd did, so I'm thinking perhaps the initial overall primary ratio was listed incorrectly.
     
  6. Neal H

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    A couple of the reviews mention a firm ride, but they don’t mention what suspension settings they’re running. As the road tests have also included track time, I assume they were set up more for track than road, but as they don’t mention it it’s hard to put into context.

    The Ohlins is fully adjustable and the manual has settings for Track, Sport, Normal & Comfort.

    Either way, I’m soooo looking forward to this bike....
     
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  8. SteveRS

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    I think this review confirms my suspicions regarding the new bike being too firm and not as suited for road use as compared to the out going model. Other reviewers have also mentioned the stiffness of the suspension and chassis as well as it’s not as good in slower corners compared to the previous model too. I still want to test ride one just for fun though.

     
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  9. SuperHans

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    What a fantastic review, and very detailed :) I like how they compare other bikes too, makes me want a Tuono :)
    The guy really seem to love the new RS
     
  10. Neal H

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    Very good review by MCN. They love it on track but not so much on the road. They now seem to eulogise about that 1050 RS as a road bike, but as I recall when the 1050 RS was first launched it was criticised as being too harsh on the road and that the 1050 S was a better choice as a road bike. What do you 1050 RS owners think - do you regard your bike as being too firm to be ideal?

    I’m after a fast, capable road bike not track bike, but I guess I’ll find out whether the 1200 RS is the right one once I’ve test ridden it. If I have doubts, I’ll have to see whether I can try a 1050 to compare.
     
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  11. Neal H

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    Very good review by MCN. They love it on track but not so much on the road. They now seem to eulogise about that 1050 RS as a road bike, but as I recall when the 1050 RS was first launched it was criticised as being too harsh on the road and that the 1050 S was a better choice as a road bike. What do you 1050 RS owners think - do you regard your bike as being too firm to be ideal?

    I’m after a fast, capable road bike not track bike, but I guess I’ll find out whether the 1200 RS is the right one once I’ve test ridden it. If I have doubts, I’ll have to see whether I can try a 1050 to compare.
     
  12. andyc1

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    Try a new Superduke! That is a fast bike perfectly set up for real road riding!
     
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  13. Wessa

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    Yep a good review and has been said, MCN seem to really like the new bike. I'm sure it will sell really well, however all that power on a road bike is not for me...
     
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  14. SteveRS

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    The 1050 RS is a great road bike. Top end suspension that’s adjustable so you can get it to feel just how you like it. But, if you are lighter than say 170 pounds you may have an issue as the springs may be too stiff to set up soft enough for the road. The RS over the S model is a far better bike for the money IMO when you consider the top end suspension, the IMU that gives you cornering traction control and cornering ABS as well as a premium exhaust and all the carbon bits. Sounds like the new bike is going to be a stiff ride (that’s what she said) unless you change the fork and shocks springs. Even then the chassis sounds like it’s a lot stiffer and could be contributing to this as well. Ride them both to see what you like, but you might get a really good deal on a 1050 RS and you won’t be disappointed trust me.
     
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  15. SuperHans

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    My guess is that we will see a semi-electronic suspension next year or so on the Speed Triple RS. Maybe there will be an RS plus...who knows.
    If a small company like Aprilia can sort it out surely Triumph can.
     
  16. SteveRS

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    I’ve listen to many reviewer’s prefer a top end (Ohlins) suspension over the electronic stuff. Having the right springs in your forks and shock is critical for a compliant ride. You can’t expect a manufacture to have the right spring rates for everybody of the showroom floor. It would be nice if we could order the right springs before we buy the bike, maybe one day that will happen. Sounds like the new bike is going to be stiffer regardless because of the new chassis.
     
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  17. xorbe

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    How much does it cost to have someone swap in more compliant springs? Am guessing that it's probably not worth it.
     
  18. SteveRS

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    I’m not sure what the cost of the springs will be, but if you have a bike with a really harsh ride it’s definitely worth it.
     
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  19. Neal H

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    Swapping springs shouldn’t be a major problem, but it wouldn’t be cheap! I had a Lotus Elise with Ohlins dampers and in the car world specifying different spring rates was fairly common depending on whether your use was primarily road or track. The tricky part was you need to find a specialist who really knows what they’re doing as specifying spring rates and getting it properly set up is a tricky business, and probably not something I would be willing to do on a brand new bike.

    I’m a light weight - about 135 pounds - so a stiff set up is a problem for me. Hopefully I’ll get a test ride in the next couple of weeks to see for myself.
     
  20. dainesefreak

    dainesefreak Well-Known Member

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    I'm just around 62kg and the 1050 RS was too firm for me on the road. I had the suspension setup as soft as it could go by a specialist and they recommended lighter springs. If I remember correctly it was around £300-£350 fitted and setup. I would imagine for someone of my weight on dodgy potholed UK roads the new one would be all over the place at pace.

    I moved my 1050 on for an RSV4 (long story, was looking for a Tuono) and I've found the RSV too firm and had it set up again. Not sure how the RSV compares to the Tuono, could be different springs I suppose??
     
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