T100 - Bar end mirrors

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  1. Mr Toad

    Mr Toad Senior Member

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    I'm slowly getting the T100 more to my liking.

    One of the things, well two really, that have to go are the mirrors, far too sticky up for my liking.

    I'm going to replace them with bar end mirrors and would welcome any experience people have doing this.

    I've been in the garage this morning and had one of the current bar end caps off for a look and there is a solid but threaded bar end weight welded inside the bar.

    This rules out the expanding bolt type mirrors due to the blockage so I'm looking for mirrors that bolt into the the thread on the existing weight.

    Having had a look on fleabay and other sites prices vary in the extreme from £7 a pair to £70 each and all points in between.

    On the basis that they stick out and might get scraped on walls and would be the first thing to hit the deck in the event of the bike getting dropped I might start out with a cheap pair and then move more upmarket.

    Any suggestions, links to suitable mirrors and of pictures will be very welcome.
     
  2. Jboy

    Jboy Well-Known Member

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    I agree there are loads out there, i went for these (see pic). Roughly £15, pretty well made and at that price cheap as chips really if you damage one. The new bobber with ape hangers has natty bar ends that look mint (to me) so thats another option when they come out. image.jpeg
     
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  3. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    Personally I quite like the 'Sticky up' standard mirrors on my Bonnie.
    You get good visibility without having to look down, no vibration and they are not stuck outwards which makes it easier for filtering in traffic.
    Some of the ugly mirrors that I have seen fitted as so called improvements are small, stuck out, bolt on things that look exactly what they are with the added disadvantage of having to look down to see the mirror.
    Give it some thought before splashing out, the grass is not always greener!
     
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  4. Rich Bryce

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    The standard mirrors on my Street Twin are great for inspecting my shoulders and elbows, but rubbish for anything else. I bought a pair of Oxford bar enders off ebay for £19.99. Looking down I don't find a problem, no worse than doing life savers like we were taught. I like that I can adjust them easily on the move to check blind spot too. Here's the same on my SE, but with white rather than black nylon ball. The mirrors come in silver too. Never had a problem filtering. Bonnie I bought 3.JPG
     
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  5. curly

    curly Noble Member

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    I also like the standard mirrors fitted to my Newchurch, but have to agree with Rich that they do not give a rearward view beyond elbows and shoulders.
    Physical shoulder checks are never a bad thing in any case, but I have seen that Motea sell mirror extenders which supposedly provide an 40mm width when fitted.
    £48 seems a bit steep to me though?

    Curly
     
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  6. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    #6 MickEng, Jan 21, 2017
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    Rich, looking at the photo would I be right in thinking that the bar end mirrors stick out about 100mm more each side than the standard mirrors ?
    I do a lot of filtering on my way home from work every day and find the standards are quite unobtrusive.
    I agree with Curly though, there is no substitute for a glance over the shoulder.
     
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  7. Privateer

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    I've had Triumph's bar end mirrors fitted to my street twin, and they don't stick out quite as far as the aftermarket ones, but still give a great view behind, clear and with no vibration at any engine speed.
    Bit pricey though, but I got a deal when speccing them with the bike.
     
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  8. Rich Bryce

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    The ones I have you can twist them to sit above the bar and not be sticky out.
     
  9. Mr Toad

    Mr Toad Senior Member

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I do like the look of the Triumph ones but not the cost.

    I think I shall order a pair of fleabay cheapies and see how I get on with them. If the rear view is as better than shoulder and elbows then I will invest in a more expensive pair at some point.
     
  10. steve lovatt

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    The stock mirrors on my T100 gave me a good "elbow and shoulder" view but the stock ones on the SE are better. Good visibility and no vibration. The bar end mirrors I tried were actually very good for £8.99 but just too small and I didn't like the fact you had to look down at them.
    I'm with Mickeng - I quite like the retro look of the standard mirrors.
     
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  11. curly

    curly Noble Member

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    It doesn't appear as anyone has fitted those Motea mirror eXtenders?
    I might lash out on a pair before too long.

    Curly
     
  12. Mr Toad

    Mr Toad Senior Member

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    I've been looking at what's available and trying to decide on which of those is the 'look' I want but I'm not sure I'd use use retro to describe the standard mirrors in relation to the Bonneville. Pictures of original bikes rarely have mirrors at all and of those that do many have bar end mirrors.

    I love the clean look bars but there's no way I'd ride on today's roads without mirrors no matter how much I like the look. I wouldn't even contemplate a single mirror after some of the stupid people I've seen in my near side mirror!

    The search goes on.........
     
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  13. curly

    curly Noble Member

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    Just looked on E bay, quite a few eXtender options for significantly less money than the Motea items

    Curly
     
  14. steve lovatt

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    Fitted a single bar end mirror on the Enfield when I had it as it came with no mirrors at all. That was fun riding it home!
     
  15. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    I was quite content with my OEM mirrors until this post was started, now it's got me looking!
    I like the look of the CNC aluminium bar end mirrors from 3 pistons at £69.99 per pair.
    Anybody tried them ?
     
  16. phantom

    phantom Member

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    Has anyone tried,or want to try a" Riderscan,"180 deg. rear view.
    I have one to sell ,I had it on my enfield but it really suits a bike with screen to get best out of it, amazing the field of view. bike and bits (4).JPG best fitted to touring type screen

    bike and bits (4).JPG
     
  17. Mr Toad

    Mr Toad Senior Member

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    Well, on Friday I stopped prevaricating about the bush and ordered a pair of cheap bar end mirrors off fleabay.

    I've been looking at mirrors on the interweb and fleabay for weeks, agonising about the look and fitting and whether or not to go cheap and cheerful or take the plunge and spend some money.

    I finally gave myself a metaphorical kick up the jacksie and ordered a pair. They have cost £7.49 + £3.99 P&P so even if they're a complete failure they haven't broken the bank.

    I can't imagine that for £7.49 they are going to be of any quality but if they see the summer out and give a better view than the stock ones I won't mind buying a decent quality pair later in year.

    An email arrived yesterday telling me they'd been dispatched. As soon as they're on the bike I'll post pictures.
     
  18. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi Mr Toad, may I offer you a piece of advice? When your new mirrors arrive consider doing the following as it'll make installation easy peasy:

    1. Remove the original bar end finishers, carefully keeping the fixing screws;

    2. Remove the 'rawlplug section' and bolt of the new mirrors;

    3. Fix new mirrors with the Triumph fixing screws straight into the existing in-bar fitting (it'll just screw straight in) sorry I've forgotten the correct name for that bit inside the bars :oops::oops:

    It'll take you 5 mins tops to install your new mirrors like this....................................
     
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  19. Donald Abbot Jordan

    Donald Abbot Jordan New Member

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    I fitted salt lake bar end mirrors to my bike,you will need to buy from screw fix,counter sunk 5m Allen key bolts that are 40mm in length.job done! If I am correct I paid £15 for them,other sites charge over £45 for the same mirror!
     
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  20. Mr Toad

    Mr Toad Senior Member

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    Thank you for the advice. Having watched several people on YouTube fitting mirrors and deciding that this was the best way to go. And, as Donald has pointed out, if the bolts are too short a trip to screwfix will sort it although none of the YouTube videos I have watched mentioned needing longer bolts but I suppose that's entirely down to make of mirror.

    However, I do need to make sure I have enough length on the bolt to provide a secure fixing.

    Thank you all for the comments and good advice. Pictures to follow.........
     
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