Suspension Settings 2016 Speed Triple S

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  1. Tyson Evans-peters

    Tyson Evans-peters New Member

    Nov 4, 2018
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    Has anyone got any decent suspension settings for a 105-110kg rider who rides pretty hard ?
     
  2. Bad Billy

    Bad Billy Baddest Member

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    As you are heavier than the 'typical' rider set up the bike was designed for, first set the sag by compressing the springs, there are many sites that will explain this, below is MCN guide. Getting the loaded sag right has a huge effect on how the bike feels for the individual, I wouldn't go for track settings unless that is where you're going to ride, for the road start at the mid point between hard and soft and see how that feels.

    https://www.motorcyclenews.com/new-.../november/feb23-05-how-to-set-suspension-sag/

    Once this is done, refer to Triumph manual & set up for sports riding, that will probably be spot on for you but if not just increase/decrease by 1 click at a time until it feels right for you.

    I would make a note of how many turns or clicks you have made, at least then you can change it back to how it is now if you don't like it.
     
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  3. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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    I got rid of my 2016 R as I am 16 stone in the saddle and the suspension was way too soft. Even with preload and compression cranked up near max the front was dangerously bottoming out
    Triumph dont offer upgraded springs. Said I would need to go to a 3rd party at over £1,600 for the front alone (including valve system)
    I went back to a 2010 Speed Triple and upgraded the rear shock only for £600 and it is perfect.

    Sort but the lack of flexibility in the 2016 model left me disappointed
     
  4. Richard Neale

    Richard Neale Active Member

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    Surely somewhere like KAIS could sort this for well under 1600 !! thats like whole new unit money. If you ask an Ohlins stockist they will surely have spring options .
     
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  5. Bad Billy

    Bad Billy Baddest Member

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    Forgot to mention, on rear as a 'rough' guide, 1 full turn on the spring compression takes about 3mm out of the sag.
     
  6. SuperHans

    SuperHans Senior Member

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    #6 SuperHans, Oct 1, 2020
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    Old thread but maybe someone out there with a non-Öhlins has some good input regarding the suspension on the Speed Triple S 2016 and above.

    I have tried a few different settings and even though the bike handles alright I do feel that the suspension is pretty crap from what I had and experienced on my 2014 Speed Triple.

    In lower speeds the bike is very bouncy, it feels like the suspension is to hard. The setting is on the softest and the fork does move and are a but "spungy" when looking at it.
    I just can't get my head around what's wrong.
    Added new fork-oil and cleaned the seals, so the fork travel is now good.
    Have check the settings on the front fork so it is set to factory default then gone for comfort settings.
    And I do get the feeling (could be wrong) it is related to the fork not the rear suspension..

    Anyone else out there with a Speed S that can has any input? Is the suspension on these bike shite or is it down to being very anal and setting it up exactly right for it to work properly.
     
  7. Bolosun

    Bolosun Well-Known Member

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    Mine is the same, I am sending my forks and shock to MCT to setup for me.
     
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  8. SuperHans

    SuperHans Senior Member

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    Maybe that's something to actually consider, finding a good suspension place...or use it as a reason to get an RS with Öhlins :D
    What bike do you have @Bolosun ?
     
  9. Bolosun

    Bolosun Well-Known Member

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    Speed Triple 2015 non-R
     
  10. Thomas Newman

    Thomas Newman New Member

    Dec 4, 2020
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    Anyone else that has had issues with their Speed Triple's Suspension, please leave me a comment, I'm having issues with the suspension bottoming out, Triumph Corp. USA states the motorcycle is rated at a maximum operating weight of 432lbs, I don't weight this much, and Triumph can't/won't provide a way to remedy the safety problem concerning this model.

    I'm now in contact with Lawyers, and have been informed on the best method on how to proceed with this case. Any other rider out there that have experience with the same issues, now matter where in the world or which model year, your information about your similar experience will help me try to shine a brighter light to the false advertising from Triumph motorcycles, and overall rider safety concern for the Speed Triple models, for any rider that might weight more then 175lbs.

    Most riders know how unsafe a motorcycle with the incorrect spring can be, and will definitely not be any joy when trying to ride a motorcycle with a spring rate too soft, or too hard for their weight.
     
  11. Bolosun

    Bolosun Well-Known Member

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    #11 Bolosun, Dec 4, 2020
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    I have had mine sorted and I was told the issue with the rear shock is the compression bottoms out and locks, therefore the rebound has very little effect. MCT worked their magic and all is well with the world.
     
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  12. Thomas Newman

    Thomas Newman New Member

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    Thank you for the feedback, I have an appointment with a suspension specialist next week, if they can't sort it out with the stock setup, my legal consul says with will file a lawsuit for false advertainment, and if they can I will be filling a lawsuit against the dealership for tell me I need to purchase completely new springs for both forks and shock if I want the suspension to work properly, but for some reason can't find springs for the model.
     
  13. martinm

    martinm Member

    Mar 24, 2018
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    i have a 2018 s speed
    the forks and shock are showa and would be identical or similar to a 2016
    i am quite fussy with how my bike feels. i mainly want a plush ride that dosnt jar my ageing body
    springs should be fairly easy to get hold of. i put some 8.5n springs in it instead of the 9n standard ones.
    i think ducati 996 and 2015 fireblades have similar forks.
    i weigh around 200lbs and only ride this bike solo.
    if it bottoms out when you have a spring rate close to ideal then you can look at raising the oil level which will create more of a "hydraulic lock" as the forks compress in the last part of their travel
    i also altered the damping shims to get more compliance over the uk's poor roads
    if your suspension company is any good they will know more than me and hopefully get you sorted.
    i did try 2 aftermarket valve kits from well known companies but in my case got better results altering the standard parts after a lot of trial and error and plenty of swearing.:confused:
    a good set up is in those forks and shock. it just needs coaxing out :)
     
  14. Thomas Newman

    Thomas Newman New Member

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    Thank you for you information, greatly appreciated, I was always thinking I would have to upgrade because that has always been the industry standard, which is neither safe or legal to consumers.
    My issue is that the Triumph dealer (during the purchasing of the motorcycle, asked me if I would like to reserve the suspension specialist to set-up the bike for me during the first 600 service) the had no problem charging me on top of the "first service" price, to "set-up" my suspension for my weight, then informed me they couldn't set the suspension up for me because I needed to purchase and install stiffer springs, (both front/back), also at one point tell me I could just purchase a completely new Nitron rear shock (remember on 570 on the motorcycle at this point), only to find out they could not find any after market company to provide the adequate springs for this model, and Triumph corporation doesn't provide springs for their motorcycles, (I also think any Showa tech should be able to help a dealer with this), the other main issue is Triumph corporate says the bike is rated to operate safely carrying 432lbs.
    We will see after the appointment at the motorcycle suspension specialty shop.
    If it can be set-up with stock springs, I will demand a refund from the Triumph dealer, and apologize to Triumph corporate, if I need to purchase stiffer springs from a third party to make to motorcycle safe for me to operate, that's is what I will do, after which a lawsuit will be brought against Triumph for false advertisement of a product and knowingly manufacturing a defective product that has great potential to be injury and/or death to the consumer, and since I do not weight 432lbs fully dressed in my protective riding gear, legal counsel says it would be an easy case.
     
  15. Bolosun

    Bolosun Well-Known Member

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    My bike is setup for me and fully kitted I am about 105Kg. My rear shock has the standard spring, all the modifications were done internally. The front forks now run .95 springs, 5W oil and other modifications. I needed linear springs because I will be using my bike mainly on the track. Ohlin, Hagon, K-tech all make springs for the bike, but most are progressive.
     
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