Hi yea, I have recently purchased the above mentioned machine from a Salvage Yard as it had been involved in a bit of a spill. She has a few issues but what bothering me at the minute is that I can get her to crank over never mind getting her to start. It is fitted with a Triumph alarm system which seems to be switching on and off with the button on the key but when I turn on the ignition and hit the started button nothing happens. When I got the bike the battery was totally dead and I've charged it up and it appears to be holding a charge. Any ideas or pointers as to where to start trying to figure this out??
I know its a silly one but have you checked the clutch lever safety switch is making proper contact? look here for some info. I know its a different bike but I guess its the same mechanism
Thanks and no I don't think it's a silly one, that's the side she went down on and I haven't checked that area out at all.
You say it looks in order but have you done a continuity check? Then there is the kill switch. There is a tip over switch which comes into action if the bike is dropped, it cuts the engine, it's meant to be reset by turning ignition on and off 3 times, waiting for the prime process to finish but I think the bike turns over if that is activated, the are so many possibilities it's a bugger!
If the bike's battery was as dead as the proverbial Dodo, and had been for a while. I think it reasonable to expect the battery in the alarm to have lost all of its juice too, if this is the case there is a risk it loses all its memory and leaves the bike in a permenant state of the alearm being active and thus unable to start. From your initial post, you say you can get the bike to crank - was that a typo and supposed to read can't gat it to crank? I have a Triumph alarm which is basically a Datatool So, with a new battery fitted tell us what happens when you turn the ignition on - does the alarm beep or make any noise - do the indicators flash to register a command from the fob - does the alarm activate when the ignitition is turned on You may have to look at having the alarm removed which can be a bit of a process and needs to be done properly. Try the usual start sequence, clutch in, sidestand up, in neutral shut of switch in the on position Was the tilt sensor activated in the spill, this would usually reset when the ignition is turned off and on again Was the bike standing in the yard a long time, is the petrol stale/crap could water have got in? Check the spark plugs, replace if necessary. If she cranks over, is there the smell of fuel from the exhaust Could the engine be flooded with fuel, if so, turn her over with the throttle closed - should always do this by the way on all fuel injected engines. I am sure there are other teast but we would need more info
Yeah that was a typo, it won't crank over. The alarm does seem to function, in that it bleeps and indicators flash etc. I even tried plugging the alarm out and it still goes off even when not connected to the bike. The bike is sitting on the centre stand in neutral with the side stand in the up position.
If it is indeed the Datatool alarm, then one flash is for disarmed and two is armed If you unplug the alarm, then the bike would be in a disabled state as default Can you get the engine to turn over by having it in gear and turning the rear wheel, what I am getting at is it is seized? It may be a case of getting a multimeter and spending time checking continuity between battery, starter motor, charging system, kill switch, side stand etc
If I could get her to crank over I could figure all the rest of the stuff out. I'm not that far from McCallen's motorbikes in Lisburn but don't want to have to bring her up there to be pluged in if I can help it.
So the alarm is disabled, side stand up, clutch in, kill switch in the on position, but no go from the starter motor. Do the lights dim when you hit the starter button? It could be a case of the relay or fuse having blown, do check all the fuses
Is there a red LED for the alarm to show when it is active? Does this flash still and is the alarm definetly deactivated Seems it realy could be a case of needing a multileter to check continuity
Hi Gary the side stand switch is operated by a plunger which can seize and stop working. The same the the clutch lever switch.
do you get instruments do you here pump prime? the more you can tell the more the search can narrow down http://www.thetriumphforum.co.uk/threads/starting-problems-and-fixes.4913/
My Thunderbird spent winter in a mates garage on an optimate...which was faulty.when I went to pick it up battery was totally flat...even the alarm wouldn't work. Charged it up but no crank ... nothing. New battery....fired up first time. Could be as simple as that maybe?
