Oxford Heated Grips - Another Thread!

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  1. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    I know that a few people have already fitted these to different bikes but I really can't be bothered with cold hands this winter or faffing about with thick winter gloves and inner liners.
    Got these from https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk - they're the Premium Touring ones, which I think (hope) are the correct length for the Bonneville. £49.99 instead of £79.99.

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    The Premium have five settings, whilst the advanced have nine (too much faffing involved here I think). They are for 22mm bars (which the SE has and not the 25mm (1" bars of the T100). The difference between the Touring, Sports and Adventure models is grip length and grip pattern.

    I should be trying to fix these tomorrow and will update the post as I go. Already watched Delboys Garage video where he fits them to the Scrambler. Point to watch - don't bash them on with the palm of your hand as you might with ordinary grips - as you might damage the wiring or contacts within the grip.

    Other advice I will be following is to "dry fit" them first and not use the glue - some guy did this apparently and only got the grip half way on before it set! :tired_face:

    Don't really want the controller on the bars if I can help it as it looks a bit naff, but better that than cold hands if I can't find an alternative spot. :cool:
     
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  2. Gazwhitespeed

    Gazwhitespeed Senior Member

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    I have fitted 15 sets of these in the last 3-4 yrs,what i found works best is only glue the clutch side,just scuff the throttle slide slightly and twist on without ANY glue works a treat.
     
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  3. freck

    freck Elite Member

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    I’m guessing you must be a mechanic, or have you gone through 15 bikes in 3-4 years Gaz? :eek: :p
     
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  4. Gazwhitespeed

    Gazwhitespeed Senior Member

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    Freck,no mechanic,although i tackle most things including fitting/balancing tyres myself,but yes 15bikes in the last 3-4yrs easy,ask DD.
     
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  5. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    Just fitted two set to our speed twins, they come with a sticky pad so you can mount the controller wherever you want Steve.
     
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  6. sean quinlan

    sean quinlan Well-Known Member

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    these were fitted to my triumph when i bought it but they are draining the battery, They are connected to the battery and are draining it at 0.3amps per minute. As i have no instructions don't know how they are supposed to be connected, Never had a set on any bike before but at a guess would say into the ignition any help before i start stripping off the tank etc. Thanks Sean
     
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  7. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    As far as i know these heated grips are meant to be connected directly to the battery as they switch off automatically, have you isolated the grips to check its not something else.
     
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  8. sean quinlan

    sean quinlan Well-Known Member

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    yes i disconnected them and drain from the battery stopped
     
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  9. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    #9 darkman, Oct 23, 2019
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    Interesting, maybe worth you trying to contact Oxford for help.
    Also the controller should only draw in m/amps so my guess is it's a faulty control unit.
     
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  10. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Cheers mate - it was your original thread that got me thinking about doing this in the first place.
    My plan is to mount the controller with the sticky pad, hopefully on the LH side of the headstock - like this from The Bike Shed's fitment to a Street Twin.
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    Can't do it on the RH side on the Bonnie as it has the stupid, pointless, awkward steering lock barrel sticking out there! :D:D
     
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  11. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Sean, according to the instructions with my new grips, the switch is "extremely efficient, and in standby will only draw 71 microamps (0.071mA)." So it looks as if yours must be faulty as the grips draw 3.6Amps on average. :cool:
     
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  12. Rocker

    Rocker Elite Member

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    I haven’t glued mine on and they’re fine but you need the controls where you can see then while riding or turning it up and down will drive you nuts
     
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  13. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Here we go then - the fitting of heated grips to a Bonneville.

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    Seat off and tank bolts removed. Pull tank back off the support rubbers and carefully lean it back against you whilst standing on the RH side of the bike. You will need to detach the breather pipe.

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    and then this electrical connection by pressing and separating.

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    Finally the slightly fiddly fuel hose. Push the orange collar down and squeeze both sides until it pops off. (this is the point when I wished my tank had been almost empty as it becomes quite heavy)

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    Well, as the tank was now off I decided to check the valve clearances at this point - so slight derail of my own thread :D

    Remove your spark plugs - colour looks quite good.

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    Remove the four Torx head bolts holding the cover on.

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    then unbolt this bit so you can get it off.

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    Success! Exhaust valve showing just around 0.27 clearance (should be 0.25 - 0.30).
    Inlets were good as well being around 0.16 (should be 0.15 - 0.20)
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    At this point it started to absolutely p*ss it down - so the impromptu rain shelter was deployed.

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    Back to the grips - you really do need to trim all the projections off the throttle tube and then sand it down to a smooth finish. The fit of the grips is very tight, especially the RH one, so much so that I haven't bothered with gluing either side.

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    Wiring up is a doddle. Positive and negative connections to battery, connect that to the female connector at the end of the controller lead and then each grip to either one of the two remaining connectors (you cannot get it wrong). Check it all works before routing the wires and fixing anything in place and then you're good to go.

    (Have now used up my photo allowance - bear with me) :cool:
     
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  14. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    This is where I mounted the controller - still accessible but out of the way.
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    Both grips now fitted - the arrow moulded into the grip indicates the correct angle of fitment.

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    Just a bit of tidying with the wires - all hidden under the tank. Run up the bike and there we go - toasty hands and no more bulky winter gloves. It is bloody hot at 100% after about 2 minutes. :cool:
     
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  15. darkman

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    You have me worried now as i didn't check my plugs or tappets when fitting mine Steve :eyes:
     
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  16. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Only did mine as I've reached 12000 miles. I have another thread running on checking valve clearances and only did it today as the tank was off! :grinning:
     
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  17. sean quinlan

    sean quinlan Well-Known Member

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    thanks had a look at the post then took a look at my grips. The guy who wired them up for some reason put a relay in that had 2 neg and 2 pos. Stripped it off now no drain on the battery and warm hands thanks
     
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  18. sean quinlan

    sean quinlan Well-Known Member

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    here's the extra wires having never had them before i thought this was the way to wire them up

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  19. sean quinlan

    sean quinlan Well-Known Member

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    meaning never had heated grips don't know why the relay was added
     
  20. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    I think it's because some people are reluctant to wire the grips directly to the battery, fearing that they won't switch off and will continue to draw significant current. This is despite the fact that the oxford grips are made that way and designed to be battery connected only.
     
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