Thruxton New Tubes Every Tyre Change?

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  1. Dave Roxburgh

    Dave Roxburgh Well-Known Member

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    I just changed the Diablo tyres (for more of the same) and the garage charged me £48 more than they'd said because they decided to replace the tubes as well as the tyres.

    Do you change your tubes with every tyre change?

    Do Triumph dealers typically change them with every tyre change?

    I'd say it's worth changing the tubes every few years but the bike is only 12 months old and the tyres (and tubes) had only done 1,500 miles.

    I was only changing the tyres so I had a new pair for a trackday - which is now not happening :-(

    Dave
     
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  2. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    Feckin taking the piss if you ask me :mad:
    They probably gave the job to the young un and he fecked them :confused:
    I wouldn’t have paid because I didn’t ask for them to be changed :mad:
    Ask for the original tubes back because they’re yours :)
     
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  3. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    They’re having a laugh.....at your expense.

    The major killer of tyres is UV light from which the tubes are completely shielded. They should last at least 4 or 5 yrs without issues, often longer.
     
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  4. Dave Roxburgh

    Dave Roxburgh Well-Known Member

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    That's what I thought, cheers.

    They did 'forget' to give me the old tyres and tubes back too but I got them - there's nearly £200-worth of rubber there!
     
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  5. beerkat

    beerkat Senior Member

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    Just had my tubed tyres replaced at Youles in Manchester. There was no mention of new tubes. I reckon you've been ripped off.
     
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  6. Dave Roxburgh

    Dave Roxburgh Well-Known Member

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    > The major killer of tyres is UV

    Hmmm. Thanks for that - I'll put them away somewhere dark!!
     
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  7. Flashp

    Flashp Noble Member

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    I changed them at the first tyre change in the belief that Triumph would have bought the cheapest tubes they could. I had Michelin tubes fitted and interestingly they hold pressure for longer now. As for future tyre changes, two tubes add about £30. It's not a fortune, so I'll probably change them. I see the sense in not doing it though, particularly if you're changing the rear at least every year. Mine will probably do 2 years.
     
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  8. Dave Roxburgh

    Dave Roxburgh Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm. The tubes the workshop removed from my 2019 bike - the tubes fitted by the factory - are Metzeler.

    Mazeler is a brand I am very happy to use.

    The tubes they fitted are of unknown brand... but they charged me £48 for them.

    Oh, and they damaged the original rear tube (split it by the valve). Maybe that's why they suddenly decided to change the tubes - to hide the fact that they damaged the old one.

    It's enough to make you want to buy your own tyre changing kit.
     
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  9. Flashp

    Flashp Noble Member

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    Frustrating indeed. I hate tyre change time. And £48 for tubes is really steep but they have you don't they when they damage one and the only alternative to hand happens to be what they can sell you.
     
  10. Thripster

    Thripster Elite Member

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    Go back to them and say that you didn't ask for them to be changed. This is a rip off covering their damage to the original.
     
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  11. JtC

    JtC Elite Member

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    I agree. If they damaged it, they should pay for it, not you. The fact it wasn't flat when you took it is proof they damaged it.
     
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  12. dav.a

    dav.a Well-Known Member

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    It might not actually have been them. When I took a TTR out for a test ride the valve split from the tube causing instant deflation. Fortunately I had just come off a motorway and was stopped at traffic lights, even more fortunate only about 0.247 of a mile from the dealer. Bike had under 200 miles on the clock. It didn't put me off buying one but the first job I did was send my wheels to Doug Richardson at Devon Wheel Company to convert them to full stainless steel and tubeless. No no longer need to think of tubes bursting or corrosion.
     
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  13. Flashp

    Flashp Noble Member

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    #13 Flashp, Nov 16, 2020
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    Would you happen to have any photo's of the wheels on the bike you could share? I quite like the idea of upgrading/improving but keeping the original look. Did you have stainless wheel rims as well as spokes? TIA :)
     
  14. dav.a

    dav.a Well-Known Member

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    Also added one of the wheels for my T140V , he did last month. Both wheels stainless rims, spokes and nipples. Last a lifetime or two !

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  15. Flashp

    Flashp Noble Member

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    Thanks for that, the wheels seem to have a different profile which looks really nice. I notice they have different finishes, which did you go for?

    I also wonder if it's cost effective to buy new hubs and then sell on the old wheels complete??? I'll have a look Ebay etc and see if there's any demand for them, perhaps from Speed Twin owners.

    I think I shall look up the price of hubs and ask for a quote to build wheels with new hubs and also to re-use my hubs.
     
  16. dav.a

    dav.a Well-Known Member

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    I have just had a look at the tubes that came out my T140V last week and one, Continental make has stamped on it " new tires - new tube" or "neuer reifen -neuer schlauch" or " nouvea pneu- nouveau tuyau" or " nouvo pneumatico-nouvo tubo" and finally "nuevo neumatico-nuevo tubo"

    Not trying to stir things up I hope you realise !!
     
  17. dav.a

    dav.a Well-Known Member

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    I sent the entire wheel to him with the tyre fitted and he used the original hubs but replaced the rims, spokes and nipples with stainless steel. Converted them to run tubeless and sent the wheels back ready for fitting. If your going to use him I would do so over the Winter so the wheels are back in time for Spring. You should phone him to chat about options, timescales etc. He is very good to deal with.
     
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  18. Spacefrog

    Spacefrog Active Member

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    They change your tubes which will look like new, they then fit them to the next mugg who comes along, so the tubes you have in your bike belong to the mugg before you.
     
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