New Rocket 3 2020 Minor Issues

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  1. David Downes

    David Downes Well-Known Member

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    Having recently picked up my new Rocket 3 (TFC), I've found a few niggles and/or potential technical issues, that I wouldn't mind some opinions on. I'm not sure if many, or any, of these are truly problems per se, they could be perfectly normal, but I know that if I ask my dealer about them, I will definitely be told that they're normal.

    The first one, when I turn on the ignition, I see what the manual tells me is the General Warning Symbol, which looks like white spanner in an orange circle. It only shows for a few seconds before turning off, which makes me think it could be by design. However, I'm almost certain that it wasn't showing before yesterday. I've only done 170 miles on the bike, so maybe I missed it on the first few days, but I'm pretty damn confident it was never there before.

    Also when you turn on the ignition but not starting the bike, it make a fair amount of little noises. Continuously. Whirs and buzzes, the occasional click. I'd expect the fuel injector to whizz and maybe some other shortlived electrical/mechanical noises, but it really does not shut up until you either start the engine or shut it off. Normal?

    Next up, it has an unstable idle, both when the engine is first started up, and also after a ride of a decent length (10+ miles). You can the revs are wobbling, the rev gauges shows it, and you can feel the slight shake/wobble through the handlebars. I would estimate the gauges show a wobble of around 100-200 revs maybe? And it's not regular (e.g. every 2 seconds), it's totally erratic. Can this be normal?

    Finally, I've also made a whole separate post about the trouble I've had with the bluetooth module :(

    Really appreciate any comments!
     
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  2. David Downes

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    Oh no! I missed one! This is the only one that the dealership will probably admit to not being correct.

    My keyless-ignition-key is basically no longer working, it's range has dropped to ... practically 0.

    This happened as of this evening, and I know it was perfectly fine for my ride this afternoon. I normally just have it in my jeans pocket, jump on the bike, start up, all good. Now, I have to take the seat off and hold it near the battery in order to get the ignition on!
     
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  3. dilligaf

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    I think that only two people on here have taken delivery of their 2020 Rocket’s mate :confused:
    Yourself and @SleepyOwl :)
    @Rspete gets his Norbert:joy:on Friday :)
    And I get mine 1st March :cool:
     
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  4. dilligaf

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    :mad:This is EXACTLY why I didn’t want keyless ignition :(
    Hopefully it’s just teething problem’s mate :confused:
    If you’re not happy take it back to the dealer mate :confused:
    You’ve paid a LOT of money and that’s what they’re there for :)
     
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  5. Wessa

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    Shame your getting problems, I hope you get them resolved quickly...
     
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  6. David Downes

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    Thanks, me too!

    My wife likes to remind me of the issues I had with my Thunderbird Commander when I picked that up from the dealer. Those included a loose mirror that flapped back due to wind when I went over ~50mph, a strange whirring noise (which never got fully resolved) from the belt, cosmetic issues (scratches on panels, exposed glue on the outside of panels, etc), and then a host of other silly stuff like creaking when turning the handlebars, loose cables dangling out from behind the lights, and a broken lightbulb. Oh, and an engine management fault light within the first 500 miles.

    I think I'm just unlucky ... unless ... this is just triumphs!
     
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  7. littleade

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    That's a bit of a sod, especially on such a special bike. I can't help with the dash and tick over concerns you have, but going on what happened on my previous ditch pump I'd guess the light is normal as it's illuminating to show it's working then going out after the ECU has completed it's self diagnosis checks. On the keyless thing 1st port of call would be to change the battery in the key fob.

    Hope you get these niggles sorted so you can enjoy your R3 TFC;)
     
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  8. David Downes

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    Thanks, regarding you points ... the light is part of the TFT. The manual says that the oil, abs, and engine lights come on for that reason. It does not say the same for the spanner logo in the TFT, and commons sense would imply there's no need to show that ... the section of the TFT is working, right? :grinning: . But yes, it's still possible that they do it for people without common sense!

    As for the battery, as it happens, when I rode away from the dealer (we're talking, I was about 10 feet outside the gates) the display told me my key battery was low : unamused:, so literal first job was to replace it. I've not since had any low battery warnings, so I doubt it's that ... although I did buy 2 batteries, so could test :cool:
     
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  9. JerryBB

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    So many electronics, so many things to go wrong...
    Sorry to read it is not perfect, a lot of money for a dream bike to not be perfect, hope it gets sorted
     
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  10. littleade

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    Fair enough, hopefully @SleepyOwl will see this as we've tagged him and he can check and if the spanne light doesn't come on he could post a photo of his TFT so you can show it to the dealer so they can't bullsh1t you it's "normal and they all do that sir"
     
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  11. SleepyOwl

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    Sorry to hear of the problems. I’m away until Thursday and will check for sure then. I can also record the starting up noises
    From memory though I have never seen the spanner symbol. Also definitely no drop in revs. Touch would young Sprocket has been fine so far. I hate keyless ignition on bikes. Mine is ok so far (200 miles) but there are lots of reports on Triumphs of the keys being a problem. I will also have a look at you Bluetooth thread.
     
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  12. SleepyOwl

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    Have a look at the below. I’m on my phone but I think you can see the start up lights at 2 mins 45secs

     
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  13. David Downes

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    Thanks a lot, no spanner in that vid., I'll take a vid of my own to show you what I mean.

    The ONLY other think I can think of, is something to do with servicing, OR to do with having the rev limiter set to running-in mode.

    I'm at 170 miles, so if you're at 200, that's not it. I can change my rev limiter to see if that changes anything, but I doubt it.
     
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  14. SleepyOwl

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    You haven’t got an oil leak have you which is causing the spanner to come on? I’m no mechanic and probably complete off mark but worth a check.
    Someone reported a leak on a TFC over on the R3 forum
     
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  15. David Downes

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    Dammit, I just took some vids, can I upload them here, or must htey go on youtube? It doesn't seem to want me to upload .mov files ...
     
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  16. SleepyOwl

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    Think you have to use YouTube or imagur is easier.
     
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  17. David Downes

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    I also just checked whether turning the gear shift indicator from "running in" to disabled didn't eliminate the spanner. It did not.

    Although my key now seems to be working again, after having done nothing at all to fix it (????) :no_mouth:
     
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    @dilligaf I forgot I mentioned that Norberts arriving on Friday..... It totally slipped my mind. :p:joy:
    @David Downes if your not happy just take it back to your dealer mate, I'm sure they'll iron out any problems.
     
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  20. Rspete

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    It sounds to me as if your bikes showing you need a service, go into the menu and try to change the service date.
    Also change the battery on the keyfob, as the key itself could of been manufactured 4 years ago.
     
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