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  1. DCS222

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    #1 DCS222, Apr 16, 2020
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    This thread doesn’t have to just be about the bike I’m showing... we have a lot of well versed clever-clogs, anoraks and know-it-alls who use these pages who have the capacity to discern bikes at the hint of a tailpipe, so let use this wealth of experience and knowledge and demystify the “lost ones”!


    So this bike was my grandads, he’s long past now and I recall him talking about bikes but until this lockdown came into force and mum went through her old photos, I’d never seen him on one. He’s the absolute spit of my brother here... I suspect it’s a low to mid capacity velocette, but I really have no idea... can any of you historic bike fanatics help me out?

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  2. crispey

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    #2 crispey, Apr 16, 2020
    Not a panther is it?
     
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  3. DCS222

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    #3 DCS222, Apr 16, 2020
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    The exhaust looks wrong... it comes off the engine on the right hand side, sweeps round the frame to exit on the left... looks a bit home made... I wonder if it’s a bitsa?
     
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  4. Tiglet

    Tiglet Vintage Member

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    #4 Tiglet, Apr 16, 2020
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    My first stab would be a Rudge :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Tiglet

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    #5 Tiglet, Apr 16, 2020
    Velocette made a 250 single cylinder 2 stroke called the GTP.

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  6. DCS222

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    #6 DCS222, Apr 16, 2020
    That’s a twin exhaust ported barrel by the look... but thanks
     
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    #7 DCS222, Apr 16, 2020
    Look at the rear brake set up... he’s gonna have his knees under his chin???

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  8. Tiglet

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    #8 Tiglet, Apr 16, 2020
    Yep, just pointing out to young Al that Velocette made other small engine bikes :)
     
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  9. gdslick

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    #9 gdslick, Apr 16, 2020
    I'm no expert, but if you google 1930s Panther motorcycles, the frame looks very similar.
     
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  10. crispey

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    #10 crispey, Apr 16, 2020
    Still think a panther is close, maybe a model 60 or 70 but the pipes coming round the wrong side, but then it could have been “modified”
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    But then maybe not!
     
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  11. gdslick

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    #11 gdslick, Apr 16, 2020
    Sorry, just noticed that Panther had already been considered and rejected.
     
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  12. Tricky-Dicky

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    #12 Tricky-Dicky, Apr 16, 2020
    Excelsior or Rudge by the looks of it but cant be 100%.
     
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  13. Tiglet

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    #13 Tiglet, Apr 16, 2020
    That’s got a inclined engine where as the first pictured bike hasn’t :p
     
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    #14 crispey, Apr 16, 2020
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    I defer to your better judgment as unlike you I wasn’t around when these were made. But it Could be on a hill!
     
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  15. DCS222

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    #15 DCS222, Apr 16, 2020
    Just looking at the Excelsior’s ... it’s quite like the 250 Manxman... tank looks different though... and foot pedal placement (rearset conversion???)

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    #16 Tricky-Dicky, Apr 16, 2020
    They made some smaller capacity Excelsior's but cant remember the models the tank looks very Excelsior to me.
     
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    #17 DCS222, Apr 16, 2020
    Oohhh... foot pegs...

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  18. Flay

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    #18 Flay, Apr 16, 2020
    The engine looks like a 2 stroke - a Norman possibly ?
     
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  19. Tiglet

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    #19 Tiglet, Apr 16, 2020
    The Manxman had a central oil tank (under seat) 1st pic doesn’t have one.
     
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    #20 DCS222, Apr 16, 2020
    The rocker covers appear simpler too
     
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