How Much For A Map?

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  1. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, just a quick one.

    How much would a Triumph dealer charge to pop a map on to suit a 3 into 1 can and a k and n filter?

    Got the can on but want to put a filter on. I can just notice a slight flat spot and it sounds like a howitzer every time i let off the throttle. Which i love, but i feel is hampering performance.

    Thanks alot!
     
  2. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Ok great, thats not as bad as i was thinking. Just that i had a lot of trouble with my old, 2005 triple where they put an arrow map on and i had a full zard system. And basically it ran like a bag of crap. I must of gone back 4 times until they got it right.

    The only difference is it was under warranty and they did it all free of charge.

    Just dont want to spend a bomb if the same thing happens.
     
  3. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Iv just spend a whole lot of money on the bike so not sure £300 remap would sit well with the wife!

    If i can get a map more suited to what i have on the bike for around £50 then im happy.
     
  4. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    I thought Triumph usually only have the standard map or the TORS, arrows map. You might find the tune ecu website will have a more specific map
     
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  5. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    As far as I'm aware, all the maps Triumph dealers have for installation are just to compensate for changing the exhaust end cans; they do not take into account changes to the inlet side side such as free-flowing air filters or changes to the airbox.
     
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  6. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Triumph maps don't allow for filter change AFAIK.
    Can only use TuneECU on pre-2016 Speed Triples, the Triumph maps are on there and only a couple of fairly old user custom maps which I would stay away from anyway. Using somebody else's maps you're in the hands of the gods, it might be ok, it might wreck your engine.
     
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  7. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Have to agree with all of the above.
    A dealer will only have TORS or Arrows maps, which only take account of the fitting of those exhausts and no other modifications.
     
  8. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Ok with all the above info i should clarify first.

    My bike is a 2011. It has a mivv 3 into 1 and a standard air filter at the moment.

    Do you guys think i should be getting the map on with a standard filter? If they dont take it into account would be of any benefit?

    Id rather the map be done at a dealer, not go it alone and get tuneecu. I havent really the time with other projects going on at the moment.

    What exactly is a TORS map? Do you think the arrow map would be close enough to what i need. X
     
  9. Havit

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    Not on valentine's day that's for sure:confused::D
     
  10. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Do you know my Dad?

    Sounds like you two have been sharing jokes.
     
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  11. Havit

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    Don't be confused Andy. The joke is .....A Map of the Bike Not Mapping the Bike

    [​IMG]

    Give it time on this forum...... and it still wont make sense:p
     
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  12. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    TORS - short for Triumph Off Road Exhausts. Basically Triumph fit their own after market pipes or Arrows and they only have the maps for each one as far as I know.
     
  13. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    I know i literally posted it and went, oh what a t**t.
     
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  14. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Cant see it mate. Sounds like witchcraft to me
     
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  15. StrippleMont

    StrippleMont Senior Member

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    Round your way!
    "troglodyte";):kissing_heart:
     
  16. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    That's all very well but where's the 'kin kick start?
     
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  17. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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  18. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Thanks alot. Not sure what to do now. Haha. Just noticed a flat spot is all.

    Plus as i said, i love the popping and banging but it seems a little excessive compared to my 05 speed.
     
  19. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    You'll still get the popping with the Arrow map.
     
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  20. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Ok, i mean poppings fine but this is like the entire time the throttles let off. Its like an uzi.

    Might just be how it is i spose.
     
  21. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Doesn't pop all the time, just enough to put a grin on your face.
     
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  22. Andrew Eames

    Andrew Eames Well-Known Member

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    Thats what i want. Although passers by walking dogs would think otherwise!
     
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  23. chuk

    chuk Senior Member
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    i had the same popping like a feckin ak47 when backing off throttle when i had twin gpr nero cans fitted,i never remmaped it still remember coming downhill from stranraer to ballantrae and noise was nuts a few folk turned round to see what it was the look on their faces was priceless,in end it got annoying and i ended up selling them on they were ok on short blasts but long runs were different matter.
     
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