Eighteen And A Half Years Of Proper Bikes!

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  1. Dawsy

    Dawsy Cumbrian half-wit
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  2. Jadorff

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    I will be ok by 2035 I will be pushing 84 and in australia we will be behind England by a few years so shouldn't bother me
     
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  3. Sandi T

    Sandi T It's ride o'clock somewhere!
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    An interesting article, Dawsy. Thanks for sharing the link. But I'm not so sure I believe that things will change so dramatically in 15-20 years. With the rate of "progress" these days, I guess I'll believe it when I see it.

    But what I REALLY like is the title of this thread. :) I agree that current bikes are "proper" bikes, especially since I've had the opportunity to ride an electric bike and found it lacking in a few key areas--including that "good old fashioned noisy engine"! ;):joy:
     
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  4. Pegscraper

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    Hydrogen can be 0 emission in ICE engines but it depends on the fuel/air ratio. At the mixture reqd to achieve 0 the power output is around half that of a similar size petrol engine so hydrogen ICE's need to be larger. The air/fuel can be altered to produce more power than a similar petrol engine but this produces pollutants, not CO2 but oxides of nitrogen which kind of defeats the object somewhat. The BIG problem with hydrogen though is producing it sustainably in sufficient quantities. Still better than poxy battery power though IMO!
     
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  5. andypandy

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    I would have thought one of the biggest problems with hydrogen is blowing everyone and everything to kingdom come.
     
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  6. andyc1

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    If petrol engines never existed and somebody proposed it today, they'd say the same thing!
     
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    Hydrogen, when handled correctly, is no more dangerous than LPG and the risks depend to a large part on how it is stored, hence specialised containers and delivery equipment is required which is why the existing natural gas network is unsuitable for national distribution of hydrogen. Put that fag out!
     
  8. Wire-Wheels

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    As a retired engineer that has worked with electrical systems for 30 years, the talk of going all electric is hilarious. Typical of the big, overblown ideas that business and government is always over shooting their meager capabilities. (at least in the US). And they are going to do it all with batteries. YEAH__RIGHT. Whole lot of infrastructure, and supply chain problems with THOSE ideas. They have been reading too many articles from 1950's Mechanics Illustrated magazines :D ...J.D.
     
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  9. Cyborgbot

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    Hydrogen with the right delivery mechanisms like that if petrol and diesel would keep forecourts viable. It would also negate the issue with the electrical infrastructure to produce and supply electricity - which also is not suitable for the growth in battery operated vehicles.

    That would protect jobs in the forecourt industry and make sure toilets and other necessities are available in the future.
     
  10. Wessa

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    What ever happens over the next few years I won’t be to bothered.
     
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  11. Wessa

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    What ever happens over the next few years I won’t be to bothered.
     
  12. Wire-Wheels

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    While I believe hydrogen a better alternative than all electric, it is still not without infrastructure problems. Any fueling supply chain handling that much volume will have those kinds of problems. I too think it will not be much of an issue for me personally. I am starting to push the limits of human longevity. ...J.D.
     
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