drag pipes on thunderbird

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  1. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    on a 2010 t bird, can you install straight pipes , obmitting the converter and mufflers, without damage to the engine?
     
  2. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Hi tbirdjon - welcome to the forum.
    Someone will be along shortly with an answer.
     
  3. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi tbirdjon, yes you can if you wish install a straight-through exhaust system - and it'll sound grrrrreat. You just need to make sure that the fuel mixture remains optimised. You'll need to re-map the bike.
     
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  4. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    how can I do that? I am thinking of running the pipes from the stock header pipes. an add on if you will
     
  5. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    If you change the rear end of the exhaust and remove any cats, it will increase exhaust gas flow and encourage the bike to run leaner. The fuel map in the ECU will need to be modified by an expert to ensure the air/fuel mixture remains good.

    If your bike was one of the 865 Bonny range I would know where to suggest straight away, but with a 2010 Thunderbird I don't know who works on them.
     
  6. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    thanks for the info. not sure now will do as don't know anyone either. may consider just straight from the cat , if that would be better for fuel mix.
     
  7. ming12

    ming12 Member

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    Hi I got a Speedmaster put short pipes on then took it to my local Triumph dealer who remapped mine (2012 model). Any decent bike garage who remaps bikes will do it.
     
  8. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    thanks, will look into it
     
  9. Bob Chambers

    Bob Chambers Member

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    Here's the first step without map change. Look into the mufflers later.
    http://jack-be-quick.com/jack-shop/jack-shop-3-2/
     
  10. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    thanks Bob. I am getting conflicting responses from some saying if I change the exhaust I will need to remap the bike. would like to use the elbows and eliminate the cat and keep the tor mufflers for now. just want to be sure I don't need to remap if I do. please advise. thanks
     
  11. Bob Chambers

    Bob Chambers Member

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    No remap required with stock mufflers & stock or K&N air filter. That's my setup, and I'm quite happy with the results.

    If you go with aftermarket or TORs, will probably require remap.

    Just my 2 cents, but when you start getting into all that, mileage suffers with minimal gain in useful power. T-Birds are plenty powerful as they are.
     
  12. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    got the cat bypass coming today. will use with tor muffler, long ones. do not have stock mufflers. called local triumph dealer, 90 miles away. asked them about remap, they didn't know and were not sure if map program available for the t bird. said bring it by sometime. wow. anyway, going to put together later and try it out.
     
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  13. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    been reading other stories about the bypass and using tor long mufflers. a few claim ecu will adjust for the new flow, not sure, also, I am assuming when I got my bike with tors on already that the dealer had remapped for the new mufflers when installed. will see
     
  14. bricairns

    bricairns New Member

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    My 2010 1600 needed re-mapping after having a balanced cat bypass pipe and straight through slash cuts fitted, this was done before I bought the bike.
    It sounds and run great but after having the bike airbrushed I now changing the exhausts to finish off the look so I've got 19" long turnout slash cuts and ordered two 45 degree 38mm Mandrel pipes so I can do away with the balanced cat bypass pipe http://www.autosiliconehoses.com/st...lbow-tube-polished-bend-choose-your-size.html which cost me a total of £22.
    The turn outs are off Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111865151540?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT can't wait to have them on and fire it up.

    Have a look on this website, it's really informative and might help you decide what to do http://williamfaulkner.co.uk/wordpress/2013/07/triumph-thunderbird-cat-bypass-pipes/
     
  15. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

    Mar 23, 2016
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    well, took bike out and it runs great and sounds great also. didn't notice anything unusual. will keep eye out . will try to get to triumph shop sometime to check for remap if needed.
     
  16. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

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    after much reading posts on the by pass and tor long mufflers, I am assuming the triumph shop remapped the bike for the tors when they installed them , prior to me purchasing the bike. is it common for the shop to remap the bike once they replace stock mufflers? my shop is no longer in operation so I cannot ask.
     
  17. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Triumph shops tend to flash the map wether you want them to or not so I would assume they would have done.
     
  18. tbirdjon

    tbirdjon New Member

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    ok thanks. is there anything I should keep an eye out for until I can get to a shop to check the map?
     
  19. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    just keep an eye on the colour of your plugs that will tell you how the bike is running
     
  20. GaryM

    GaryM It's him, you know who. Him from you know ....

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    Is the K&N the same as the Triumph performance air filter?
     
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