Clutch Problem

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by brown mouse, Feb 15, 2023.

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  1. brown mouse

    brown mouse Elite Member

    Sep 15, 2018
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    At the end of yesterdays ride, I stalled coming out of the local garage, which I put down to tiredness, but when pulling into the drive at home I was feathering the clutch an there was a clunking from the gearbox and I realised I had gained a massive amount of free-play in the clutch cable and needed to pull it back to the bar to disengage the clutch.

    I was assuming a few cable strands had broken or the solder joint on the nipple at the engine end had pulled though (it was a DIY job) but on examining things today, the nipple looks fine, and no cable strands have broken at either nipple end (where they usually go from flexing). The cable also runs smoothly when pulling the clutch in, so I’m pretty sure its fine.

    I re-adjusted the cable to remove the extra 5mm of slack and clutch operation felt fine. However, after starting bike when I operate the clutch I can feel what I can only describe as ‘grittiness’ in the operation, which I’m sure isn’t normal?

    Listening to clutch when it’s disengaged when running I can just hear some rattling over the sound of the engine, but I guess you would anyway with loose plates?

    My thinking is that the clutch lifter bearing may have gone. Or the cable really is broken in some none obvious way.

    Anything else obvious I may have missed?
     
  2. Linx

    Linx Well-Known Member

    Mar 14, 2020
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    Sounds like you are going to have to take the cover off and take a look.
     
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  3. brown mouse

    brown mouse Elite Member

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    #3 brown mouse, Feb 16, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2023
    So, today I drained the oil and sieved it which didn’t show anything and the tiny bits at the bottom of the drain pan seemed to be road muck fallen from outside of bottom of engine - they mostly squished away to nothing when rubbed between fingers and what was left didn’t look shiny or stick to a magnet.

    It was quite an effort to get the clutch cover off, after removing all the fasteners it still took 2 hours of careful prising, head scratching and a whisky to get it off.

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    I got the clutch plates out and the problem is the clutch lifter bearing as I’d guessed. 1mm of sideways play, rolls as thought filled with grit, and you can seen in the close-up photo below after cleaning it there’s lots of tiny metal fragments washed off. (Bearings and cage look intact, so no big chunks missing.)

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  4. Linx

    Linx Well-Known Member

    Mar 14, 2020
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    Amazing. How many miles has it done?
     
  5. brown mouse

    brown mouse Elite Member

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    Bike has done just over 46,000 miles in total, 2,000 since last oil change.
     
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