Clutch Casing Replacement Now Bike Won’t Start

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  1. Simon Morris

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    #1 Simon Morris, Apr 28, 2018
    Hello

    Bike is 2014 triumph scrambler T100

    Wanting to learn more about taking care of my bike myself, I have just removed the clutch casing to have it repainted after scratching it up on an old Roman road. I didn’t remove the clutch or the gears, just disconnected clutch cable. Drained oil. Replaced case gasget. All locating pins are in the crank casing. The case bolts torqued to 10nm. Replaced oil. Connected clutch cable. Bike will power up. All lights come on but just clicks when I hit the starter with the clutch engaged and bike in neutral

    I didn’t touch anything electrical because I don’t know what I am doing yet. Just followed manual. Could the cause be something to do with the clutch not registering that it is engaged?? I can move through the gears okay far as I can tell

    Any help greatly appreciated.

    Si
     
  2. Callumity

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    #2 Callumity, Apr 28, 2018
    I would suspect your battery has lost charge. The click is the starter solenoid but the ECU it say ‘not enough juice’.
    A 2014 battery could be on its last legs.....
     
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  3. Sprinter

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    #3 Sprinter, Apr 28, 2018
    Side stand?
     
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  4. dilligaf

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    #4 dilligaf, Apr 29, 2018
    If you’ve got a battery optimiser stick that on until you’ve got 12.6v in the battery and chances are your bike will start
     
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  5. Sprinter

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    #5 Sprinter, Apr 29, 2018
    Dont use some cheap charger, cos they charge to fast and strong, and break the battery.
     
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  6. Simon Morris

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    #6 Simon Morris, Apr 29, 2018
    Yep charged it up. Still nothing. I have a trickle charger I plug in all the time.. it was very low but have charged overnight and still just clicks
     
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    #7 Callumity, Apr 29, 2018
    Ok, but not of itself conclusive. Your battery could well be goosed. Try jumping it off a car battery (not running)
    If it starts you have narrowed it down to the battery. If it doesn’t I would swap out the cheap, generic relay itself.
     
  8. Simon Morris

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    #8 Simon Morris, Apr 29, 2018
    Hmmm. There’s a sensor on the stand?. Pretty sure I have started it with the stand down but now that’s nagging at me so I will go and try it
     
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    #9 Callumity, Apr 29, 2018
    As long as it is in neutral, clutch and sidestand switches do not come into play.
     
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    #10 Callumity, Apr 29, 2018
    The kill switch is the embarrassing one!
     
  11. Simon Morris

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    #11 Simon Morris, Apr 29, 2018
    Ok, so you don’t think it could be anything relating to that clutch pushrod? That fell out during repaint. Painter gave it back to me and I put in correct way around but I didn’t check it’s movement. If that is not moving for some reason would that stop the clutch engaging and thus the engine to not turn over? I knew there was a reason why I never did this stuff myself lol.
     
  12. Sprinter

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    #12 Sprinter, Apr 29, 2018
    Is there a managment light on?
    Isnt there a crank position sensor in there?
     
  13. Simon Morris

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    #13 Simon Morris, Apr 29, 2018
    Ok, so you don’t think it could be anything relating to that clutch pushrod? That fell out during repaint. Painter gave it back to me and I put in correct way around but I didn’t check it’s movement. If that is not moving for some reason would that stop the clutch engaging and thus the engine to not turn over? I knew there was a reason why I never did this stuff myself lol.
    Ha! I checked that. It’s in the run position
     
  14. Simon Morris

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    #14 Simon Morris, Apr 29, 2018
    After bike powers up the engine and oil lights are on. I think they are normally on until bike starts aren’t they?
     
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  15. Sprinter

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    #15 Sprinter, Apr 29, 2018
    That wont cause a problem till it was running, and you couldnt change gear.
     
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    #16 Yorkshireman, Apr 29, 2018
    My money is on the 4 year old battery being past it. From what I've read on here the voltage is critical and if it's not been on a trickle charger and has run down it may be beyond the point of recovery. So many posts on here about the same, or similar non starting issues, have been solved with a new, fully charged battery.
     
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  17. Simon Morris

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    #17 Simon Morris, Apr 29, 2018
    Well the neutral light is on and the bike rolls, so it’s in neutral
     
  18. Simon Morris

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    #18 Simon Morris, Apr 29, 2018
    Fair enough but it started first push with no struggle on the day I took it apart and it has only been a week
     
  19. Sprinter

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    #19 Sprinter, Apr 29, 2018
    Clutch lever cut off?
     
  20. Callumity

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    #20 Callumity, Apr 29, 2018
    The clutch switch is on the handlebar inside the lever mechanism. It would work even if the clutch didn’t! The neutral switch is on the sump and operated by the selector rod twisting and making/breaking contact. It only operates the green light.

    EVERYTHING so far points at the battery.
     
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