Cange front sprocket?

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  1. H.O.

    H.O. Noble Member

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    Thinking of changing front sprocket on 2003 800 Bonnie from 17 (I think) to 19 tooth, does any one know if it will fit with standard chain, and will the bike pull o.k. with it, occasionally 2 up.
    Doing 5000 rpm @ 70, I want to give it some more legs for longer motorway runs.
    Ta a lot.
    Terry
     
  2. H.O.

    H.O. Noble Member

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    Should be cHange in heading!
     
  3. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Have a look here HO, might help.
     
  4. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi HO, first of all let me say that my comments are based on the work I did on my 2010 T100 which had an 18t std front sprocket.

    1. When I changed from an 18 to a 19T front sprocket it dropped the revs at 60mph by approx 300 - so not that much.

    2. Changes in how the bike rode - I needed more clutch when taking off, particularly if two-up; but once running it felt good - but I should say that I had modified the engine to give more torque,so maybe that's why it coped with the higher gearing quite easily.

    3. With your bike - 5000rpm at 70mph sounds to me like someone had changed the front sprocket for a 17t as that is revving quite high for the speed, imo.

    4. As you can buy front sprockets for about £12-15 apiece, why don't you buy both and experiment between all three? I used to change mine often, depending on what I was planning to do with the bike over the following week.

    5. I believe that if your bike has a std.length chain, the tensioners will cope with fitting an 18t or a 19t front sprocket.

    My advice? Buy a couple of sprockets from here and do some experimenting.

    http://shop.tecbikeparts.com/products/19-tooth-gearbox-sprocket
     
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  5. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Good advice from biglad as ever. I had an 04 Bonnie with the 18 tooth sprocket and changed quite happily to the 19 tooth one from tecbikeparts. I remember a drop of about 300rpm at 60mph being about right - 5000rpm at 70mph sounds like a 17 tooth one as that's a wee bit high.
    It will feel more relaxed on longer runs and leaves you less likely looking for that non existent 6th gear.
     
  6. H.O.

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    Thank you for the info, looks like 19 it is then, I've ordered a 32mm socket as sods law prevails again, only had a 31mm!
    Its about 4yrs since I had my beloved 08 and I'm sure that the revs were lower at 70 than this one.
    I can always go down to an 18 which seems to be the standard now any way.
    Cheers
    Terry
     
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  7. Recycled Rocker

    Recycled Rocker Senior Member

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    Yo, I'm with t'others, my SE Bonnie had 19T, toured Belgium no probs :D
     
  8. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi HO,you might find this interesting,there are some good tips here for doing the job.

     
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  9. H.O.

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    Thanks for all the relies, I thought you could undo the back wheel on the chain adjusters max forward and drop the chain off the back sprocket enought to lift the chain off the front, as per a Honda CB750 I did.
    I will still try that.
    Strange thing yesterday, I bought a 32mm socket off eBay a bit quick as it only had a couple of hours to go, Buy It Now, more than 10 available at £4.02
    When it got re-listed it had gone from £4.04 to.........................£14.02!!!!
    WOW that some inflation!! I got in just in time!
     
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  10. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    You can H.O., you can.
     
  11. H.O.

    H.O. Noble Member

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    I can what, do the job that way or just try it?:)
     
  12. steve lovatt

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    No you can do it that way.
     
  13. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    You can do the job by:
    1. slackening the front sprocket nut

    2. slackening the rear axle, moving the adjusters all the way forward,

    3. there will now be enough slack so that you can then lift the chain off the front sprocket;

    4. Replace the current sprocket with the new one and refit the the retaining nut using a small amount of locktite and a new tab washer;

    5. Re-set chain tension.

    It's good to have a couple of new tab washers in stock, part number

    21. PFKL1182311 NUT. GEARBOX SPROCKET £ 4.25(€ 4.85)
    22. PFKL1198524 WASHER.SPROCKET £ 6.30(€ 7.18)
    23. PFKL1198671 SPROCKET. G/BOX. 17T £ 20.28(€ 23.12)

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  14. H.O.

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    Cheers Dave.
     
  15. H.O.

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    New 19 toof sprocket arrived today in the post, changed in about 20 minutes.
    Biggest struggle was to undo the nut, only 'spose to be 97 ft lbs, done up a bloody sight tighter than that!
    the 1 I took off was indeed 17 toofs, cant try the difference yet, guess what its BLOODY RAINING just for a change!
    Thanks for the help and advise.
    That's the A.I. conversion done, now the sprocket, new rear tyre to go on, just looking forward to the summer now.
    Terry
     
  16. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi Terry you are certainly getting there, well done :):)
     
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