Tiger 1050 Can I put 19" tire on front? 2012 1050SE ABS

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  1. naturalscience42

    naturalscience42 New Member

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    #1 naturalscience42, Oct 28, 2015
    17 inch is way to small for a bike with three hard bags and weight close to 500 lbs, plus add a passenger. The rake is too short IMO too I have almost dropped it twice having it for a month. Trust me I LOVE the bike but after riding a 14 BMW R 1200GS I was like this is wayyyy easier to handle at low speeds and around town. I hated it all around though. Shaft gag, noisy gag and boxer motor sound like it would explode at 6k rpm.

    Would I need to change the rear wheel also then? Any major mods besides fender?
    Obviously i need to get use to this because it is more tuned toward street performance but Triumph missed the mark on this one . Im coming from an HD 13 Streetglide YES lower and slower and don't worry Im not going back
     
  2. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    #2 thebiglad, Oct 28, 2015
    Hi NS, can I just ask, to get this topic going - why do you believe that putting a 19" front wheel on a Tiger 1050 will increase it's stability? I understand that the steering angle will be altered slightly, but that could be achieved by installing longer front springs.
     
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    naturalscience42 New Member

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    #3 naturalscience42, Oct 28, 2015

    by no means am I an engineer. if you use taller springs your rake would have to increase it would seem, which is fine by me. Then you can go to a thinner tire and bigger wheel. The BMW R1200 gs I would call the closest type of bike. The seating position was lower and easier to maneuver. The steering seemed very light. Who takes the 1050 SE off roading anyway? Maybe you guys do over there but we run strictly street tires.


     
  4. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    #4 thebiglad, Oct 28, 2015
    Just bear in mind that if you go to a 19" front wheel: a. where would you get one that has a twin disc set-up & b. tyre selection will be reduced.

    Before you do anything too radical, can I suggest that you look at the rear suspension set-up - particularly the spring pre-load - and see if someone has 'gone to town' and cranked every too high?
     
  5. naturalscience42

    naturalscience42 New Member

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    #5 naturalscience42, Oct 28, 2015
    Yeah I may have them look at all the spring tensions. I set the preload to factory setting already. I just think a bike that big and heavy would go with a bigger set up. They stopped making the Tiger in 2012 and went to the Explorer which I hate.
     
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    naturalscience42 New Member

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    #6 naturalscience42, Oct 28, 2015
    At least in the states I mean. I think you still have the Tiger
     
  7. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    #7 thebiglad, Oct 28, 2015
    The Tigers in production as of 2016 are Tiger 800 in all it's derivatives and Tiger Sport 1050, plus of course the 1200 Tiger Explorer
     
  8. naturalscience42

    naturalscience42 New Member

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    #8 naturalscience42, Oct 28, 2015
    I looked at the 2015 tiger explorer and the front spoked wheels looked at least 19 inches. There bags are those boxy looking suitcases from 1970. But the bike looks cool. Set up looks street tires too
     
  9. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    #9 Richard H, Oct 28, 2015
    I think it would be specialist stuff to change the front wheel size with big cost implications. It would affect the ABS and in my opinion it would be better to just change bikes.
    I changed from a Tiger 800 XC with a 21" front tyre because I did not like it's slow steering and lack of decent road oriented rubber. My new Kawasaki Versys 1000 is probably heavier than the Tiger 1050 and its steers great on 17" wheels two up and loaded. 17" wheels are industry standard size for most touring and street bikes and the most variety of tyres are available in 17"
     
  10. naturalscience42

    naturalscience42 New Member

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    #10 naturalscience42, Oct 28, 2015
    Yeah I hear u with the popularity of the size but not for this bike

    Do u see one on a Harley bagger? I d
    Yeah im just bitch in. I love the bike it just feels too heavy in the front. I'LL be keeping it. Road Harleys my whole life.Its like wtf was I thinking all these years? Torque and power curve are incredible on this 1050. Wow. But no cruise control option? The throttle lock is dangerous. Imo that is. Thanks for the input. God save the Queen!!
     
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  11. Richard H

    Richard H Noble Member

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    #11 Richard H, Oct 29, 2015
    I'm certain that cruise control will be on the next generation Tiger 1050 when they update it. in 2012 I owned the Triumph 1050 Speed Triple and I know how great that engine is..... perhaps we will see Triumph get a few more BHP out of it when they release the updated Speed Triple.
     
  12. naturalscience42

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    #12 naturalscience42, Oct 29, 2015
    The 2015 KTM Adventure uses a spoked 19 in wheel and is ranked at the top of every review
     
  13. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    #13 thebiglad, Oct 29, 2015
    I know, I've got one !

    But that's like comparing apples with Kiwi fruit with raisins - well they're all fruit !
     
  14. naturalscience42

    naturalscience42 New Member

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    #14 naturalscience42, Oct 29, 2015
    How do u mean? Also how do u like your ktm? It's got more technology than the space shuttle. I may sell my 1050 if I like enough
     
  15. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    #15 crispey, Oct 29, 2015
    Oh don't get him started!!
     
  16. Eldon

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    #16 Eldon, Dec 12, 2018
    As Richard says and an additional hidden thing to think about.

    I'm not certain it would on a bike but a friend fitted a different profile pair of tyres on one axle of his car as they were more popular and cheaper (say a 55 profile as opposed to the standard 60). The diameter was only marginally different.
    The management light came on and he couldn't understand it resulting eventually in the bulb being removed. When he later changed the other axle's tyres i.e. all four tyres now the same, the issue disappeared.

    The Ecu was obviously able to determine the different rolling diameters from the manufacturers preset parameters.
     
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