Caliper Service

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  1. TonyG

    TonyG Noble Member

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    Just replaced all my pads on a 2013 Bonnie and wondered what grease was best to use on the sliding caliper pins, not the pad retaining pins. Haynes manual says to use silicone grease, presumably because it is kind to the rubber sealing boots. I happen to have a little pot, originally designed for use on scuba gear. I presume that would be fine, but I remember reading somewhere that silicone grease was not good on metal to metal surfaces such as the steel pins in the caliper bore. On the other hand, any movement is minimal and the main function is probably to resist any water ingress.

    Also, when I was torqueing up the pad retaining bolts on the rear brake, I noticed a tiny amount of movement in the caliper, not laterally as you would expect with a sliding caliper, but back and forth. If you grab the caliper just below the bleed nipple and try and move it you can just about detect movement. Is that normal? The brake plate itself which mounts the caliper is rock solid.

    Any advice greatly appreciated.

    Cheers
     
  2. MrOrange

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    Red rubber grease or coppaslip will do. Or even silicone grease.
    As long as it isn't a high speed application , I would use any of them.

    Can you get replacement caliper slide bolts to eliminate movement? Had similar movement on rear brake on the gixxer, didn't affect performance. Sold before I got any pins.
     
  3. GaryM

    GaryM It's him, you know who. Him from you know ....

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    I use copper slip personally. It's only to stop them seizing
     
  4. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    I have just recently fitted new pads back and front on my 2012 Bonnie.
    I always use copper grease on any thread that does not require threadlock adhesive, and any sliding steel to steel components.
    I put Copper grease on the rear of the pads to stop any brake squeal and also on any contact points between pads and caliper.
    On the sliding pins that fit in the rubber bellows and the pistons I always use Castrol red rubber grease.
    I like it that the caliper 'floats' a little bit,
     
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  5. TEZ 217

    TEZ 217 Crème de la Crème

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    As Gary said Copper slip every time for me also
     
  6. t552

    t552 Senior Member

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    #6 t552, Mar 9, 2017
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    Copperslip is not good at all. It is mineral based that will make the rubber boots swell.
    Silicone grease or red rubber grease is good or even the grease that comes with a chain pack(Lithiam I think). The boots will swell about 30% which then opens there seal to the elements.
    Also avoid high melting point/general purpose grease or moly grease
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  7. MrOrange

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    Never found coppaslip to do this ! Been using 20+ years on bike and cars. My old series land rover had around 2 tubs of the stuff all over it, great for stopping corrosion and keeping stuff moving in our wet salty climate.

    Handbrake mechanism on my Freelander has been painted with the stuff, and this is the first year I haven't had to strip and rebuild for it's MOT.
     
  8. t552

    t552 Senior Member

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    Just use google. Its all over it, and I've seen many like the ones in the photo. So that's why I avoid it. Copperslip is great used in the right area.
     
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  9. TonyG

    TonyG Noble Member

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    As far as I can tell, copper slip was always recommended in the past, but that has changed now to silicone, red rubber, or lithium based grease, I think. That is all down to those greases being kind to rubber. I don't think copper slip will necessarily harm the rubber boots, but it just isn't as good a lubricant as the greases.

    as for the tiny caliper movement back and forth as opposed to laterally which it should do, I went to Jack Lilleys and checked a couple of new bikes, all had the same tiny amount of movement.

    Thanks all, looks like any of the above will be ok, I'll probably use silicone just because the Haynes manual says to, and I happen to have a little tub of marine grade silicone. I just had in the back of my mind that it could harm metal to metal.
     
  10. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    Copper grease is generally used for anti seize on threaded fixings, and is highly recommended to stop thread seizure.
    It is also used for high temperature applications such as brake calipers, (not rubber seal areas) and on the brake pad steel face that touches the piston to stop that horrible brake sqeaking noise.
    I personally like Castrol red rubber grease for rubber seals etc. and recently blathered it on my forks before fitting the fork gaiters.
     
  11. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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    Delboy has all the answers
    Linky
     
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  12. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    A good product and I have used it myself on electrical type fittings.
    Not the best for mechanical applications though.
     
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