Best Tyres For Daytona T595 & 955i?

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  1. Geoff Butler

    Geoff Butler Never too old for Biking!
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    Hi all,

    Happy Christmas Eve!

    As part of getting my 1998 Daytona T595 back on the road I need to replace the 15 year old tyres!! Having read other posts on tyre brands and sizes, I plan to stick with the standard sizing (below) but would really appreciate some recommendations on brands.

    Rear 190/50 ZR17 (73W)
    Front 120/70 ZR17 (58W)

    I am leaning towards one of the following:
    1. Bridgestone Battlax (this is what I already have on the bike)
    2. Michelin Pilot (expensive but these seem to get good reviews)
    3. Avon Storm (a brand I trust and use on other non-sports bikes)
     
  2. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Big Black Round Ones Are Best

    Brand never mattered to me. As they are all far better at taking the Bike round a corner than I am .
    Never seem able to reach tyre limits.

    So buy whatever you want ...
     
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  3. Iceman

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    Hi Geoff, wow 15 year old tyres definitely need replacing, have a look at the Metzler M9RR tyres, they offer superb dry and wet grip, they warm up quick and are confidence inspiring, they even outperform the Michelin Road 5s, another great tyre is the Pirelli Corsa 4s and they are an excellent all round tyre.
     
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  4. sprintdave

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    Avon Spirit 2s on myT509 885 speed triple. They seem good, not done loads of miles, better than the Angels i had on before.
    Hey they gotta be better than your 15 Yr old ones
     
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  5. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    I bought a 1998 Triumph Sprint which hadn't been ridden for a good six or seven years !! The tyres were 10 year old front and 11 year old rear .... ! They were fine , bit hard wearing and took a good while to "warm" up and get grippy !! They only had a few miles on them , seller had the service provider paperwork , tyre's were put on during a scheduled service. They lasted quite well. Front was still good when I replaced the rear after doing 6/7,000 km.
     
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  6. Iceman

    Iceman Noble Member

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    Modern day tyres may be more advanced than their predecessors, but they are not immortal. When a tyre leaves the mould it will slowly continue to cure, which means that it is of the upmost importance that tyres are stored and handled correctly to minimise the effects of exposure to the atmosphere. Stored in optimum conditions in a dark room at a constant 20°C most tyres will remain in good condition for over five years. However once fitted to your bike and inflated a tyre is placed under stress as well as being exposed to direct sunlight as well as the extremes of heat and cold which accelerates the process of deterioration.
    One of the common signs of tyre ageing is known as “Crazing”, which is when hairline cracks appear in the tyre wall or at the base of tread grooves. The crazing is caused when oils in the tyre leach out, and you can use a torch to help you spot whether or not a tyre is starting to perish. When buying an older bike it is important to look at the numerical information on the tyre wall to determine age.
    Personally I only run either Pirelli Supercorsa's or Metzler Racetech K3 RRs on my bikes, these only last around 2500 to 3000 miles so tyre age is never an issue for me. Regarding the cost I factor this in with annual maintenance etc, the last thing I ever want is a tyre failing whilst riding, especially at higher speeds, the consequences don't bear thinking about, as the old saying goes "you pay your money and take your chance". Ride safe all.
     
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  7. Geoff Butler

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    Thanks to everyone for your various responses and I now feel better informed to make my decision on the new tyres.

    I will update this thread with what I decide once the bike is back on the road. :cool:
     
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  8. Geoff Butler

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    #8 Geoff Butler, Jan 9, 2022
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    I decided to go for the Avon Storm 3D XM tyres in the end, not because of my preference so much but I also weighed up the cost compared with the other brands. £235.00 fitted by Russ Motorcycle Tyres in Portsmouth.

    Thanks again for everyone's input.

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  9. jurkka

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    #9 jurkka, Jan 14, 2022
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    I had in my t595 speedtriple first old 190metzlers to end; then i got recommendation from my tire friend to try mitas sportforce ev; i rode them couple years and plenty (over 10k kms) - worked really well on track day; and i survived with it also in baltic uneven and badly repaired 3-digit roads.
    At the track I finally got some wear on their sides too- they were reaaally grippy also on wet track! after last summer the tread wear signs were even, i decided i want to try something more versatile; cause i tend to ride whatever type roads- and we have a lot of twisty gravel outside cities(=towns).
    now i have a narrower 180 michelin anakee adventure to see how it works. no experience on that yet, but looks goodiie to my eyes. front is nowadays scorpion trail II, that has worked well and given some confidence on back roads

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  10. DanielB

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    @jurkka , any feedback on the Anakee tyres; I'm eager to get some for my 2002 Speed Triple...

    Thank you!
     
  11. jurkka

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    we have now over half a meter snow, so I just rode a "break-in" ride before winter... waiting for the sun
     
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  12. DanielB

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    @jurkka ...any feedback yet on those Anakee tyres :)
     
  13. jurkka

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    sorry, we still have -1 celcius and ice on the road- i have just started to look for my summer tires to my CAR.
    most of the people still have their spike-tires on. ( although summer tires are allowed if weather conditions make them possible).
    soon as possible, i will get on two wheels- but i quess appr. after three weeks at earliest?
     
  14. DanielB

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    #14 DanielB, Apr 2, 2022
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    Oops, sorry...I didn't see you were in Finland!

    What size (rear) did you get,.out of interest? From what I can find out it doesn't come as wide as a 'normal' road tyre.

    I don't know much...does that matter? Does it still fit our wheel ok?

    I'm not a fast rider...I don't go round corners with any G force o_O, I am looking for just a regular/neutral, confidence inspiring set of tyres for everyday use, in all weathers, all year round, on all types of road...that look a bit badass...
     
  15. jurkka

    jurkka New Member

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    size is the usual like 180/55/17 if i recall right- the regular replacement for s3 original (was it 190/50/17?)…
    and i am no evilknievel or artsi nyqvist -(our local legend, google his stunts!) myself either.

    last summer went to see on trackday how BAD driver i actually am compared to the true motörheads out on that trackday. i really recommend it- hell of a fun and i learned a lot on basic info they gave to us rookies.

    although it was addictive i realized that in MY skills its shitsame what tires i use; thats why decided I dont need so sporty track slicks on my usual travels. but i am still going back to track to test these -and especially myself again (soon as the snow melts)!
     
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  16. DanielB

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    So...I went to my local bike garage and asked about these Anakyee tyres...

    They made fun of me in that endearing way other bikers do about this awful tyre choice...

    We then chatted...and, by the time i took their joking and their sneers...them laughing at the very suggestion of putting a trail tyre on a road bike...by the time I asked questions and fought my corner...and showed them the photo above I left (without any new tyres ordered yet) and they had almost come round to the idea of them.. as they looked pretty good.:cool:

    @jurkka can you supply anymore photos of how the triple looks, from different angles, with these tyres? Would be good to see.

    More generally... These Anakyees are 180 55s (rear); am currently on 190 50. What actual, real life, perceptible difference am I likely to feel as a sedate commuter?

    App thoughts and opinions welcome.
     
  17. jurkka

    jurkka New Member

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    hey- as long as the wheel of tire limits are obeyed- one can change tires, their threads, patterns and even profile (note also mudguard/hugger space limits!).

    dont listen those narrowminded morons. its not faaaar different in size- nor either the thread pattern. youtube is filled with videos explainig this better- but main principle is; the smaller the width- easier it turns (and vice versa). also the higher profile makes turning slightly easier and bike feels a bit more nimble.
    While i changed the tire in autumn, i just took it for short spin; and tried to zigzag as much - to wear its slickness (that is to make it less slippery- as new tires always are in first 100kms or so)…
    it did not feel sooo much different. quite okay- atleast on wornout rough tarmac we have usually. southern countries have MUCH smoother tarmac- so i quess therre the difference can be bigger?
     
  18. jurkka

    jurkka New Member

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    i also tried surfing for pics and there were not few if them.
    but currently my rear wheel is removed; i am renewing the dragdop link bearings- we had a incredible record breaking like 30cm snow this week! not usual this time of the year to get that sooo big - usually its just like an inch in this time of year- but we now have plenty of it
     
  19. DanielB

    DanielB Noble Member

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    Thanks, that's all useful to know...

    I agree...I think there's a lot of opinion about tyres...but maybe it's a bit more iindividual and you can't generalise?

    How YOU ride YOUR bike WHERE you ride in the WAY that you do will be different between different people...and surly what tyres suit you, may or may not suit me?

    Saying "no, why put trail tyres on a road bike" seems to miss the fact that they may be a good road tyre too?

    I don't know...just thoughts... :D

    I have a whole (and.long) thread on here for my 955 Triple drop link overhaul....it was a satisfying job! Good luck!!
     
  20. jurkka

    jurkka New Member

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    actually these anakees are NOT trail tyres. they are definately road tires- these are usually rated as ”80/20” ; meaning 80%on tarmac and only 20% on gravel… and funny is when these types of tyres were tested in motorcyle magazines - and those were tested ONLY on tarmac(!!!) i found that really amusing.
     
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