50cc Bikes

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  1. littleade

    littleade The only sane one here
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    What are the government thinking :mad:

    Yesterday I followed a young lad on a 50cc bike in my car. It was a 20 plate bike and the thing is restricted to just 30 mph and once we got to a hill his speed dropped like a stone to 15mph. It's a narrow B road with a restricted view through a series of bends and double yellow lines so obviously no overtaking. I stayed behind him after we crested the hill as the traffic was buikding up behind us all the way until I had to turn off so he could build a bit of speed back up as I felt he was in actual danger due to his bike's pathetic performance. He actually gave me the low hand thanks with his left hand so was aware of what I was doing to try and protect him. How come they have to ride things with such poor performance that actually puts them at risk from other impatient road users?
     
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  2. Tiglet

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    IIRC these 50cc bikes have been restricted to 30 mph for 20 years at least.
     
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  3. littleade

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    I don't necessarily have a problem with them being restricted in general Dave but think if they are restricted they should be able to hold that speed going uphill.
     
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  4. Stephen Martin

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    We all said the same as when they came out being an old bastard I was lucky and could ride a 250cc on L plates when I was 16 BSA C15 never showed more than 60 on the clock. The poor thing was abused something rotten Ah those were the days. Nipper had a RD 50 MX or something like that, that would die a bit up hill maybe 25 to 30 but I had it reading 50 on the clock down hill once. Not knowing anything about making them go faster I put a micron exhaust on ultra thin head gasket to raise the compression and it didn't add a signal mph was gutted looking back I think it should have had a bigger carburetor but to late now. Sorry I seem to have waffled on.
     
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  5. Havit

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    50cc bikes and roundabouts don't fair well neither.

    I do worry about you Dad following young lads on there mopeds , mum won't like it :p
     
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  6. littleade

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    I worry about you too son, it's their, not there:laughing:
     
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  7. steve lovatt

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    My son had a restricted 50cc ped for getting to college.
    I felt that the 30mph restriction was OK in principle but on hills no way!
    I fitted a de-restrictor kit so he could at least get up to 25mph on hills. :cool:
     
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  8. johne

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    I was always worried about the lack of power available when my son was 16 and had a Yamaha TZR 50cc ped, but he went all over the place on it with his mates, even a road trip down to the South coast! (We live up in Yorkshire) But that was 12 years ago and perhaps the traffic wasn't as bad as it is now, outside of the current Covid restrictions of course. I have the opposite problem now. He's just bought a Tuono 1100 V4, the same as the one I have, so with 175 bhp on tap he's got an extra 60 horses in the bank after having a MT-09 Yamaha for the past 3 or 4 years. I think as parents, we always worry about our kids, whatever age they may be, but I do think the restrictions on 50cc motorcycles have been too harsh since the good old days of the FS1E and its contemporaries back in the 70's.
     
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  9. andypandy

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    When I was in my teens a bunch of my mates travelled down to Cornwall from Oldham for a weeks holiday on their bikes. One lad (and he was just like Wurzel Gummidge in looks and brains) had a 50cc KTM moped so he would have seriously held everybody up. Not so, he was towed by another lad on a Suzuki GT 550. Wouldn't get away with it these days.
     
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  10. joe mc donald

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    This has me smiling from ear to ear. I bought my Boy one as he was riding from Burnham to Henley collage a few years ago. Poor little sod had to push it up all the hills. You know he never even brought it up and suffered for a couple of years. He didn't want to let me down.
    Joe.
     
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  11. littleade

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    The problem today @joe mc donald is there's so many vehicles on the road, they are all bigger, safer (for the occupants) and more powerful, driving standards are a lot worse, people are so impatient. Invariably they don't give a stuff about others on the road including the vulnerable users like youngsters on low powered bikes which potentially has the ability to go very wrong and we all know who'll come off worse if it does.
     
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  12. BATEBY45

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    Was he going faster than a pushbike ridden by an OAP? where's the difference?
     
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  13. crispey

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    Don’t worry about him following young boys around, feel pleased that he has found a bike he can put both feet down on the ground at the same time on
     
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  14. littleade

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    The OAP can get off and push his bike uphill on the footpath, the poor yoof doesn't have that choice, so has no option other than to carry on getting slower and slower......;)
     
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  15. littleade

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    Last time I got both feet diwn was on my 3 wheeled trike when I was pre school age
     
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  16. BonnieCat

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    Over here in Holland we have two types of 50cc mopeds, distinguished by the colour of their number plates.
    Yellow = maximum speed 45km per hour and not allowed to use the cycle tracks in a lot of cities (need to use the road)
    Blue = maximum speed 25km per hour. Basically counts as a bicycle and can be used on all cycle tracks.

    luckily you can literally go from any town to any town on the the cycle tracks without ever needing to go on the road.
    I have a Yamaha Neos 50cc with blue number plates and I use it a lot to do my shopping as I can literally park outside shops and can get 3 shopping bags full of groceries in/on it.

    I certainly wouldn’t entertain having a 50cc restricted bike/scooter in the UK and be forced to use the roads. It’s completely dangerous.
     
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  17. Havit

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    I blame my upbringing
     
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  18. Ducatitotriumph

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    It shouldn’t be that difficult to restrict them electronically to 30 and have the power upped a bit to compensate for the hills in this day and age?
    Sure, ripe for hacking but surely could be locked somehow?
     
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  19. OsteKuste

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    Before my teens my first bike was a 50cc Honda dirt bike. It would clock 50mph on dirt. No restrictions there! I graduated up to a full sized Suzuki 185 dual sport and terrorized the roads as well.
     
  20. swampy61

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    Since they were restricted in 76/77 they have been deathtrap. I wouldn't recommend a 16 year old riding one. Wait the extra year and get something more powerful and safer.
     
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