2018 Quick Shift / Blipper On 2014 Model?

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  1. Taff

    Taff Member

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    Ive heard great things about the new quick shifter / auto blipper fitted to the latest speed triples.
    Does anyone know if it will fit to a 2014 speed triple??
    Cheers
    Taff
     
  2. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    I wouldn’t have thought so as I believe the electrics are very different and I read somewhere that if you put a QS on up to 2015 bikes they will chew the gearbox up.
     
  3. Taff

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  4. Taff

    Taff Member

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    Thanks Yorkshireman,
    I was afraid it would be too good to be true.
    ATB
    Taff
     
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  5. Bryan3R

    Bryan3R Senior Member

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    You also need fly by wire throttle, bikes with cables can’t be controlled by the ECU and blipped on downshifts.
     
  6. Taff

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    Thanks Bryan
    I tried a 2018 Speed Triple and loved the increased performance but not the electronic aids, so I’ll be sticking to the mandraulics of my 2014 version by the looks of things.
    Taff
     
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  7. Bryan3R

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    I'm on a 2012 non ABS Speed, so got nothing to help out.
     
  8. Taff

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    Mine has got ABS but thats all.
    Had an interesting experience on a "skills day" at Mallory Park where we had a "maximum braking" exercise.
    (Amazing just how much hard braking the bike can take, if you have the minerals and a bit of practice).
    I went wide on a bend because the abs kicked in and gave an experience akin to brake fade.
    Switched off the abs and repeated the exercise and this time the rear end lifted.
    ABS does work. I was at max braking.

    Apart from that my bike like yours is fully mandraulic so its all my own fault.
    I also like it because I can connect tune ecu if required.
    The later models are "black box" so can't be diagnosed.
    Taff
     
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  9. Bryan3R

    Bryan3R Senior Member

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    What do you need to run Tune ECU, how much and what windows version?
     
  10. Yorkshireman

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    On android it’s just over a tenner for the app and I recently bought a Bluetooth obd2 adapter for £16 from lonelec. Don’t know about using a pc apart from you’ll need an obd2 lead. It’s swings and roundabouts really cos there’s things you can do on android that you can’t on pc and vice versa.
     
  11. Taff

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    As above,
    You MUST use the "right" cable as recommended by tune ecu.
    The rest is free. I use an old laptop with windows 7 but Im sure it works on later versions. All the instructions are on the tune ecu website.
    It can be made to run on a mac if you load windows but that sort of palaver is beyond me.
    Takes a while to read it all though.
    Taff
     
  12. Col_C

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    As Taff and Yorkshireman above. Windows download is free, I've run it on Windows7 and definitely installs on Windows10 but can't remember if I've run it from that yet. You need the Android version and bluetooth dongle if you want to clear the service indicator (or bleed ABS module). If you need to change the engine map you need a cable. I've done throttle balancing and "reset adaption" by both methods from both Android and Windows. I suspect there's a bit more response lag when using bluetooth for throttle balancing (but could be all in the mind).
    It's handy to have Android phone and a bluetooth dongle under the seat, then you have a diagnostics tool to read errors should you have a breakdown on the road.
     
  13. Yorkshireman

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    On that subject Col, what does the reset adaption do.
     
  14. Bryan3R

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    Can I use Bluetooth adapter on a Samsung Galaxy tablet?
     
  15. Yorkshireman

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    To answer a question with a question can you download android apps, if so then it would seem ok. Col?
     
  16. Bryan3R

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    Seems i can download the app for about £11
     
  17. Col_C

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    Essentially the same as the "start & leave on side stand for 15mins routine", but gives you a bit more confidence that it's actually completed. Once you click the button to start the process after a while a green indicator comes on to show it's done. Next time you ride the engine will re-calibrate to fine tune itself from the base map.
    I'm convinced the ecu is quite clever - a few years back SWMBO (on a Street Triple) acted as tail end Charley on a few 1st man drop-off ride outs I led down here for "old mates" from the Midlands on a (B#W club) weekend away down here. Lots of very slow riding seemed to make it re-calibrate and ran crap afterwards, a quick reset and it was good as gold again.
     
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  18. Col_C

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    I don't have first hand experience of tablets, but I assume you just go to GooglePlay and download it just the same as smart phones. The TuneECU site has tested on these devices.
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    So I assume you're good to go.
     
  19. Bryan3R

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    #19 Bryan3R, Nov 28, 2018
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    Got a Galexy Tab E which isn't shown on there. Will have to ask b4 I order it.
    Though there is a version which will work with my laptop on Win 7, plus it comes with micro sub cable to plug into tablet/phone
     
  20. Col_C

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    TuneECU is a small enthusiast operation, so that is just a list of devices they've managed to test. I'd be surprised if it doesn't work on your Galaxy (it has bluetooth according to the 'net).
    Of course if your laptop has bluetooth also you could try it on there for free. (+ £10approx for dongle which works with either)

    For ref. TuneECU works fine on my HTC One (M8) smart phone - which is nothing fancy and quite old now.
     
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