02 Tiger Won’t Start

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  1. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    I have a 02 Tiger with a 03 955 Daytona motor in it. I had problem with battery not staying charged so long story short I replaced the stator and got new battery. Now bike won’t start. Just sounds like starter is clicking but not turning over. Had been starting fine. Any suggestions??
    Also the 3 wires from stator to 3 black wires from Regulator. Does it matter which is connected to which?
    Thanks!!
     
  2. stollydriver

    stollydriver Elite Member

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    Sounds regulator rectifier problem to me.
     
  3. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

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    How can I test RR?
     
  4. chuk

    chuk Senior Member
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    If you are getting a clicking noise from the starter and its not turning over can you not bridge the starter and see a if the engine turns over,I had the same problem with my car and it was the starter solenoid sticking.a light tap on it worked for a while but ended up replacing starter motor as it eventually just clicked and wouldn't turn engine over at all.
     
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  5. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    Ok will do. The only wires I undone were the 3 from RR to stator and have soldered them back together. And new battery.
     
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  6. chuk

    chuk Senior Member
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    worth a go it could just be coincedental that you now have s different problem,nothing to lose by trying.
     
  7. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    Cool I’ll try that this evening an see what happens. Thanks for the advise.
     
  8. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    No but will this evening. New battery out of box an charged 12 hrs on 2 amp so I guessed it was good. My old volt meter had died. Gonna get new one this evening. Thanks again for all the help!!
     
  9. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

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  10. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

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    Where is the starter solenoid located? Battery voltage is 12.8v
     
  11. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    Starting System Symptoms:

    Weak battery symptoms:
    -- Slow cranking.
    -- Stops cranking suddenly on compression stroke with button pressed.
    -- Starts when starter button is released at end of cranking.
    Repair:
    -- Charge/Test/Replace battery.
    Failure Modes:
    -- Loss of capacity. Appears to charge, voltage good but no reserve for starting.
    -- Won't hold a charge.
    -- Low voltage/cell failure.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Check fluid levels regularly
    -- Maintain full charge: Regular riding, trickle charger.

    Ignition Coil failure symptoms:
    -- Hard starting/misfiring during cranking.
    -- Rough idle that can't be tuned out with carb adjustments and carb cleaning.
    -- Idle misfire clears with new sparkplugs, returns in a few hundred miles
    Repair:
    -- Replace: Preferably with Nology for higher reliability than stock Gill coils.
    Failure Mode:
    -- Shorted turns in secondary resulting in weak spark.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None
    Testing:

    Pickup Coil failure symptoms:
    -- No spark at all
    -- Spark quits with engine hot, returns when engine cool.
    -- Note: Pickup coil failure is total. There is no random misfire spark loss.
    Repair:
    -- Replace pickup coil
    Failure mode:
    -- Thermal intermittant with long (15-30 minute) period.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None. Get a spare.
    Testing:
    -- Ohms checks hot and cold.

    Worn starter symptoms:
    -- Sometimes won't crank until the bike is rocked in gear.
    -- Excessively noisy cranking with a grinding sound.
    -- Click from under seat but no cranking.
    Failure Mode:
    -- Brush wear progressing to commutator damage.
    -- Bearing failure related to brush wear.
    Repair:
    -- Rebuild or replace.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Maintan battery in peak condition.
    -- Follow proper starting procedures. Neutral, clutch in.
    -- Crank 5-10 seconds at a time max., switch off for twice as long before cranking again.

    Worn sprag clutch symptoms:
    -- Very loud rattling when cranking
    -- Starter spins but engine doesn't turn
    Falure Mode:
    -- Breakage
    Repair:
    -- Replace sprag clutch
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- Maintain battery in peak condition.
    -- Follow proper starting procedures. Neutral, clutch in.

    Worn starter solenoid:
    -- Click from under seat but no cranking.
    -- Won't crank after rocking bike.
    -- Starter continues to run after bike starts and won't stop until the battery is disconnected.
    Failure mode:
    -- Internal contact damage resulting in non-conduction.
    -- Internal contact damage resulting in contacts welding shut.
    -- Internal damage/wear prevents solenoid core movement.
    Preventative Maintenance:
    -- None.
    Repair:
    -- Replace starter solenoid.
    Testing:
    -- For no cranking, short across solenoid high-power terminals. Normal operation denotes failed solenoidcontacts.

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  12. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    Well new solenoid didn’t help. I think it must be the starter cuz I can feel starter clicking when trying to start. I have another starter I can put in tomorrow evening and see what happens.
     
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  13. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    I’ve had to recharge the old battery several times but it always seemed to crank it fine until it started this. So I thought the battery just won’t charge enough to crank it. So I got new battery an still same symptom. What and where is the spraig clutch?
     
  14. Sprinter

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  15. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    Well replaced starter and still doing same thing. The only thing I haven’t replaced is the RR. That wouldn’t keep it from turning over would it? Don’t know what to check next that would keep it from turning over. This all started after I replaced the stator. Could that be the culprit?
     
  16. davztigr

    davztigr New Member

    Feb 4, 2018
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    Well got new spray clutch ordered so hope this will get her going.
     
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