I'm fed up spending on jackets and then wrecking them, so I got this on ebay, 6XL,now £39 delivered. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RkSports-...hash=item236c3a0ca4:m:mwDwwb4EgZQvkTyYkfHkMHw It's excellent and also reasonably water proof , and with armour. Anything else I've had previously was at least 4 times the price and really no better.